Hen Harrier - Bulgaria (1 Viewer)

Pavel

Well-known member

• Oct 14, 2018

• #1

ID please, I would opt for a juvenile Hen Harrier but the head pattern is also similar to Pallid Harrier. Thanks for your comments.

 

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Andy Adcock

Worst person on Birdforum

• Oct 14, 2018

• #2

I'd go for Pallid with that bold collar and substantial eye crescents.

 

Laruslister

Well-known member

• Oct 14, 2018

• #3

Hen Harrier has five visible "fingers" , whereas Pallid has four. Hen is also more broad-winged , so I would agree with your assessment.Pallid looks pointy wingd, Hen more rounded too.

 

Andy Adcock

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• Oct 14, 2018

• #4

Laruslister said:

Hen Harrier has five visible "fingers" , whereas Pallid has four. Hen is also more broad-winged , so I would agree with your assessment.Pallid looks pointy wingd, Hen more rounded too.

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Are you agreeing with Pallid or Hen?

 

Pavel

Well-known member

• Oct 14, 2018

• #5

Thanks guys, I am attaching another photo where I see five fingers and a lot of white on rump.

 

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Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Oct 14, 2018

• #6

Whisper it quietly . . .


hybrid


Apparently regular . . . possible here?

 

Pavel

Well-known member

• Oct 14, 2018

• #7

Nutcracker said:

Whisper it quietly . . .


hybrid


Apparently regular . . . possible here?

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A hybrid??

 

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smiths

Well-known member

• Oct 15, 2018

• #8

Looks fine for a juvenile Hen Harrier.
The four emarginated, distinct 'fingers' eliminate Pallid.

 

Pavel

Well-known member

• Oct 16, 2018

• #9

smiths said:

Looks fine for a juvenile Hen Harrier.
The four emarginated, distinct 'fingers' eliminate Pallid.

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Yes, juvenile Hen Harrier with untypical collar.

 

PYRTLE

Old Berkshire Boy

• Oct 16, 2018

• #10

A North Norfolk bird a few weeks ago, that was first identified as a Pallid but after a series of excellent photos was confirmed as a hybrid.
Why not?

 

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Tom

Supporter

• Oct 16, 2018

• #11

PYRTLE said:

A North Norfolk bird a few weeks ago, that was first identified as a Pallid but after a series of excellent photos was confirmed as a hybrid.
Why not?

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What speaks against the hybrid is the fact that this is a juvenile (have a look at the coverts on upperwing) and is so heavily streaked below as a bog standard Hen. Also remember Dick Forsman: 'the real challenge is Hen - Pallid where both occur side by side'.