gerrywestdean
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is the alpestris race of Ring Ousel still on the British List?
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alpestris Ring Ousel (1 Viewer)
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Richard Klim
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"alpestris or amicorum" is on the British List as a vagrant, but with no details of records.
Kehoe 2006 (Racial identification and assessment in Britain):
Parkin & Knox 2010 (Status of Birds in Britain & Ireland) comments: "Birds in GB from May and Sep-Oct are likely to have been alpestris or (less likely) amicorum but these require review."
Kehoe 2006 (Racial identification and assessment in Britain):
Parkin & Knox 2010 (Status of Birds in Britain & Ireland) comments: "Birds in GB from May and Sep-Oct are likely to have been alpestris or (less likely) amicorum but these require review."
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Nutcracker
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All past UK records and claims of alpestris and amicorum now rejected (BOURC 40th report, 2012; Brit. Birds 108: 97-103, 2015).
I'd guess alpestris must remain a good potential candidate for the future, but amicorum a much longer shot.
I'd guess alpestris must remain a good potential candidate for the future, but amicorum a much longer shot.
Richard Klim
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The first...
Nicoll 1912. The Alpine Ring-Ouzel. Turdus torquatus alpestris Brehm. A new British bird. Brit Birds 5(3): 72–73. [pdf]
l_raty
laurent raty
Richard Klim
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Of course! 'Sussex' should have sounded alarm bells... :t:Yes, but this one was deleted in a slightly different context.
Larry Lade
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mb1848
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Reading the Hasting's rarities article I thought they had been unfair to the Nicoll record. *There is one other Alpine Ring Ouzel, apart from the one in Appendix A, and
that was a female shot near Brighton, Sussex, on 29th March 1913 (Brit. Birds, 7:
117); we have no direct evidence that it was connected with the Hastings Rarities,
but as the record is similarly lacking in information, and as it was published by J. B.
Nichols for whom it provided a mate for the Hastings male already in his possession,
we think it is better discarded.
But then I read he was a friend of Meinhartzhagen and kept his skin collection in Cairo .
that was a female shot near Brighton, Sussex, on 29th March 1913 (Brit. Birds, 7:
117); we have no direct evidence that it was connected with the Hastings Rarities,
but as the record is similarly lacking in information, and as it was published by J. B.
Nichols for whom it provided a mate for the Hastings male already in his possession,
we think it is better discarded.
But then I read he was a friend of Meinhartzhagen and kept his skin collection in Cairo .
