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binus1963 · Oct 11, 2012

apologise for the quality on these but i know ya all like a challenge! the 1st i don't have any idea, 2nd i'm guessing hen or montague's, 3rd/4th looks too deep in chest for a sparrow hawk so thinking goshawk, and last one sand martin but it is'nt showing the band across the front of chest. as always cheers in anticipation.

Jan-Paul Charteris · Oct 11, 2012

I think the first is Redstart. With 5 obvious fingers the second should be Hen Harrier (I suppose could be Montagu's regrowing inner primaries could look like this?). I believe 3 and 4 and Sparrowhawk with a full crop (ie just eaten something big!) due to where the weight is and the strong barring. The last is a juvenile Sand Martin

binus1963 · Oct 11, 2012

thanks again for the help i'm getting closer to getting them right at least!!

tconzemi · Oct 11, 2012

extraordinary slim for Hen, so Monty for me (agree on growing inner prims),
agree with Sprawk

KGS · Oct 11, 2012

The harrier is a Hen Harrier. I suppose we do not really know when these pictures were taken, but if it is recently the moult should be over or possibly at the stage of replacing the outermost primaries. P5 could be growing in July or August. In any case there is no sign of an uneven edge to the wing here. All remiges seem to be in fresh condition and the secondaries appear very dark. Therefore I believe this should be a juvenile bird irrespective of species. Maybe the photo angle makes the bird look slimmer than expected?

binus1963 · Oct 11, 2012

KGS said:
The harrier is a Hen Harrier. I suppose we do not really know when these pictures were taken, but if it is recently the moult should be over or possibly at the stage of replacing the outermost primaries. P5 could be growing in July or August. In any case there is no sign of an uneven edge to the wing here. All remiges seem to be in fresh condition and the secondaries appear very dark. Therefore I believe this should be a juvenile bird irrespective of species. Maybe the photo angle makes the bird look slimmer than expected?

pics were all taken in last three weeks if that helps extramadura region.

Tib78 · Oct 11, 2012

KGS said:
The harrier is a Hen Harrier. I suppose we do not really know when these pictures were taken, but if it is recently the moult should be over or possibly at the stage of replacing the outermost primaries. P5 could be growing in July or August. In any case there is no sign of an uneven edge to the wing here. All remiges seem to be in fresh condition and the secondaries appear very dark. Therefore I believe this should be a juvenile bird irrespective of species. Maybe the photo angle makes the bird look slimmer than expected?

My thought too, and the Martin is a House martin of course.

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