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[jbpixels]

Three greenshanks are clear. The ruffs are not so clear to me. Would you please ID support me with the birds 3, 4 and 5. Sex and relevant plumage details would be very helpful to me.
I would like to understand their together. Forget the video bomber at the end.
Thank you for your support.

 

[Mike Earp]

Three greenshanks are clear. The ruffs are not so clear to me. Would you please ID support me with the birds 3, 4 and 5. Sex and relevant plumage details would be very helpful to me.
I would like to understand their together. Forget the video bomber at the end.
Thank you for your support.

I think that 3, 4 and 5 are Ruff; 4 is a male (with traces of the breeding plumage from which it gets its name, the other two are females (or reeves; told by their smaller size). The others (including the videobomber) are as you say Greenshanks.

 

[jbpixels]

Thank you for number 4. Def. bigger. Normal in ruff males ? No idea.
5 seems to be a juvenile (eBird).
Features of # 3 are still unclear to me.
Thank you.
Not living at the sea with difficult to reach spots not an easy one.

 

[lou salomon]

yes, males in ruff are consistantly (and noticeable) bigger than females, often ID-able as such even without seeing females close to them, just by different structure. the female to the left (3) is an adult, the one to the right a juvenile - note differences in plumage, the juvenile having pale edged scapulars and coverts, in the adult there are some blackish arrow-shaped subterminal marks. these will get moulted to much duller feathers in winter plumage.

 

[jbpixels]

yes, males in ruff are consistantly (and noticeable) bigger than females, often ID-able as such even without seeing females close to them, just by different structure. the female to the left (3) is an adult, the one to the right a juvenile - note differences in plumage, the juvenile having pale edged scapulars and coverts, in the adult there are some blackish arrow-shaped subterminal marks. these will get moulted to much duller feathers in winter plumage.

Update: Amazing new detailed id support. Ruffs
Thank you for your id support. Not easy for me close to the mountains and away from the sea to id.