Bird I.D...please.. Singh at wit's End...lol.. (2 Viewers)

[Dr Manjeet Singh]

To-day at 12.30pm i had gone to my patch at Pandamaran-jaya,Port Klang,Selangor,Malaysia...saw this bird it behaved like a Thrush or a Flycatcher.. and was hunting insects in the leaf-litter under a old Palm tree..it is a juvenile but what..? Magpie but the jezz was wrong..could any one please I.D..this bird.Thanks in advance.Regards.:t:

 

[Jacana]

looks flycatcher like to me, and definitely a juvenile. I don't have my SE Asia field guide with me, so can't help with further ID, sorry

 

[chris butterworth]

Definitly a flycatcher but which one I'm not sure as it's been quite some time since I was out your way, but the orangish flanks have stirred something in the back of my brain, just can't get it to anywhere useful. I'll have to check it out when I get home

 

[rockfowl]

Hi Manjeet,

Your bird appears to be an immature Cyornis Flycatcher sp. I'm not sure exacly where your patch and altitude is exacly but would suggest you start with the obvious species. I have little experience with immature cyornis but would suggest you start with maybe Hill Blue and Malaysian Blue Flycatchers?

Have a look at this link if you've not already, all the species expected should be covered here...starting at - http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdi...es&Bird_ID=2648&Bird_Family_ID=216&pagesize=1

Regards

Mark

 

[rockfowl]

Oh, just looked you up on google earth....

Maybe imm Mangrove Blue Flycatcher? - http://orientalbirdimages.org/birdi...es&Bird_ID=2635&Bird_Family_ID=216&pagesize=1

Mark

 

[Dr Manjeet Singh]

rockfowl my patch is at 0 to 2 degrees.sea level..i am at Port Klang,..the sea is just 5 miles away..tho the picture does look like a juv. Hill Blue..thank you people...this is the first time seen this bird and that too a juvenile...regards.

 

[rockfowl]

Manjeet,

Does your local patch have mangroves? Having had another look, that pale creamy white loral area on your bird is more consistent with immature female Mangrove Blue Flycatcher..

Mark

just read that they nest in old palm stumps etc....

 

[Dr Manjeet Singh]

Manjeet,

Does your local patch have mangroves? Having had another look, that pale creamy white loral area on your bird is more consistent with immature female Mangrove Blue Flycatcher..

Mark

just read that they nest in old palm stumps etc....

Mark the Mangroves are about 9 to 11 miles away..my patch does have a reminent of two or three mangroves trees...which have adepeted to the soggy edge of my patch because a old lilly filled drain..there may have been some mangrove area here may be 20yrs ago.regards--seen lot of flycatcher in my patch even a Mugemaki..which i had put up for I.D..some months ago...mangroves flycatcher..never..regards.Thank you.:t:

 

[Dave B]

Mark the Mangroves are about 9 to 11 miles away..my patch does have a reminent of two or three mangroves trees...which have adepeted to the soggy edge of my patch because a old lilly filled drain..there may have been some mangrove area here may be 20yrs ago.regards--seen lot of flycatcher in my patch even a Mugemaki..which i had put up for I.D..some months ago...mangroves flycatcher..never..regards.Thank you.:t:

Hi Manjeet,

Thanks for the pm, and I will reply here. First I must say that your photographic skills are really improving - a fine series of shots!

Second, as for id, I also would favour Mangrove Blue, given your locality, especially as you mention that there were formerly mangroves in that area. Mangrove Blue does seem to hang around even quite degraded mangroves long after the other specialists have left. Are there Nypa palms in the area? They can survive in such areas.

The only other possibility in this kind of habitat is Tickell's Blue, which I think is pretty rare as far south as Klang, and maybe doesn't even get down that far, but is common in secondary scrub around Penang.

However, someone has mentioned the pale loral spot, which would be a point in favour of Mangrove Blue.

You know what you could do to make sure don't you? Go back and snap its Ma and Pa!

Cheers

Dave

PS This link shows the pale loral patch too. Also, it may be my imagination but Mangrove Blue seems slightly heavier, blunter-billed than Tickells, and your bird has quite a chunky bill

 

[Du Nok]

Dear All,

I believe this juv is most probably the Mangrove Blue Flycatcher consider about of its habitat nearby.First of all,Pandamaran is nearby the coastal area of Port Klang.Secondly,something I have to correct from what Dr Manjeet said is the nearest mangrove forest is only approximately 500m away from his backyard birding patch in front of the Aur River with a small chinese temple (instead of 9-11 miles).I've seen the Tickell's Blue Flycatcher in a lowland forest nearby Kuala Lumpur,so I'm sure the Tickell's Blue is also occured in KL,but I never see it in any part of the Klang county including Pandamaran so far.

I haven't have time to refer Dr Majeet's photos with my field guide,but I do agree with Dave Bakewell that Dr Manjeet should look around and get the photos of its Pa and Ma,that will be much more easier to confirm whether or not the juvenile belongs to Mangrove Blue Flycatcher family.


Cheers,

Jason

 

[Dr Manjeet Singh]

Thanks Dave B and Jason...for the I.D...but i was there for an hour but didnt see the Mom and Dad...lol...or were they hiding after seeing the white-bearded Grandad..lol..:'D...will go back to look for them.:t:

 

[chris butterworth]

Definatly Mangrove Blue as it's showing a pale ( white) line above the lores. Must admit I thought it may have been a Malaysian Blue 'cos the wings are very blue. Just a thought, did it have a bright blue rump?
chris

 

[Dr Manjeet Singh]

Chris ,Dave B and Jason Thank you..went back to-day at noon..no juvenile no parents...i think it was home alone..on his own.Regards.:t:

 

[Tero]

Strange how juvenile birds tend to have the spotty appearance in many species. I did know this bird at all, but the first look told me it must be a juvenile.