"brown" flycatcher Shanghai (1 Viewer)

[Hainan on the fly]

I believe my options are Asian Brown, Gray-streaked and dark-sided. This is one of the times I really wish I had a nicer camera and thus more clear pictures to offer.

I'm thinking it is Asian Brown for the following reasons...

Longer bill than dark-sided
shorter wings than gray-streaked
bright white eye-ring
relatively unmarked throat and chest

Please correct me if I've missed something or made an incorrect statement, if you happen to have the time.


Thanks,

Brian

 

[Vyomkesh]

bright white eye-ring

Shouldn't it support Dark-sided as they are darker and hence more prominent eyering making it look like brighter?

 

[HouseCrow]

I see a firm and broad bill and what looks like a lighter bill base, that indicates Asian Brown to me. I notice no streaking or a contrasting white throat either.

Mind I am no expert on the subject, having seen only two handfuls of brownish flycatchers in Japan.

cheers,
Gerben

 

[Hainan on the fly]

That is a really good point. Thanks

 

[Dawsy]

Shouldn't it support Dark-sided as they are darker and hence more prominent eyering making it look like brighter?

The birds I've ID'ed as dark-sided are much more obviously dark-sided than this. There's clear contrast between flanks and belly. I'd call this asian brown too. Michael

 

[Hainan on the fly]

Thanks, Michael! AB was my first instinct. I think Vyomkesh may have been making the point that "bright eyering" wasn't a great separator from DS because I asked for advise on my observations. Either way, having discussions on this forum and finding people willing to critique my thoughts has been a great help as I'm learning. I appreciate you taking the time to help out.

Cheers,

Brian

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[Owen Krout]

I would go with Asian Brown also Brian.

 

[Hainan on the fly]

Thanks!

 

[andyb39]

Agree with Asian Brown.