Coal tit? (1 Viewer)

[JayFeatherPL]

North-eastern Poland, 21st and 22nd of February, 12 pm, I recorded this bird from the garden near forest, coal tits regularly eat from the feeder in the garden.
The bird can be better heard in the second recording with siskins in the background. Is it coal tit and can you explain to me why? Why not marsh tit? Marsh tits also have a similar song to this of the coal tit. Thank you in advance for answering.

 

[Butty]

Is it coal tit

Did you see it and identify it? I'm afraid it's often not clear whether or not you have visually identified the birds in your recordings. This is an important point for any bird recording if a doubt about the ID is being considered, so needs to be stated clearly.

 

[JayFeatherPL]

Did you see it and identify it? I'm afraid it's often not clear whether or not you have visually identified the birds in your recordings. This is an important point for any bird recording if a doubt about the ID is being considered, so needs to be stated clearly.

No, I didn't see the bird. I think it's obvious, because if I saw the bird I would describe it and If I saw it I would identify it by the appearance.

 

[JayFeatherPL]

Did you see it and identify it? I'm afraid it's often not clear whether or not you have visually identified the birds in your recordings. This is an important point for any bird recording if a doubt about the ID is being considered, so needs to be stated clearly.

If I knew the appearance of the bird I wouldn't need to identify it by it's voice too

 

[JayFeatherPL]

This is probably coal tit too, but again, can you explain why not marsh tit?

 

[JayFeatherPL]

For example this coal tit, which I recorded sounds just like this marsh tit from xeno-canto - XC875545 Marsh Tit (Poecile palustris) . How can I tell the difference between them?

 

[01101001]

Have a look at the sonograms. They are different (and the timbre is a bit different), but I don't have evidence that they will always differ like that. I wouldn't expect to tell the difference between similar songs or calls by listening only, without referring to the sonograms. Sonograms are very important; otherwise you're often left guessing. (.wav files give you more accurate sonograms than .mp3 files)