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Can you elaborate?
MiddleRiver
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Where are made the Conquest HD
Hello, Do you know where are made the Conquest HD? Just curious... Thanks PHA
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If the latter is the Kamakura, it's interesting to note they have 'overseas' facilities in China as well.
Thanks and thanks for that link. I'd forgotten it. Seems to me as I reread, things get kinda sorted from Jan's #83 down.Where are made the Conquest HD
Hello, Do you know where are made the Conquest HD? Just curious... Thanks PHA
If the latter is the Kamakura, it's interesting to note they have 'overseas' facilities in China as well.
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MiddleRiver
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Hey, if I read it on BF, it must be true! 😝
You might wanna read this reposted by MiddleRiver just above. The whole is worth it, but #83 cuts to the chase.
Where are made the Conquest HD
Edmund, One of my all time favorite pop songs is Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry." The line "when the bubble headed bleached blond comes on at five..." has stuck in head for way too long. Ear worm? My and others popular perceptions of journalists is they do like controversy. Does/doesn't the press...
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Jan: Thank you for all the very interesting information. Where are the sales of G-B-R ~80-15-5%? It seems you mean in the Netherlands--correct? Any idea of other markets, and worldwide? Curious! Thanks.
GT: Thanks for locating #83 in there!
jan van daalen
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Hi A,
These are BeNeLux numbers (Belgium/Netherlands/Luxembourg).
Germany is Zeiss terratorium.
I think the most objective way to get the right picture is to count brands at sites. Who weares what?
Maybe a nice topic to start since this is a worldwide site.
Jan
Thanks, Jan.
• Puzzled why you co-relate Germany with Zeiss only, what about Leica?
• Am intrigued to know the %s (G-B-R) in Austria!
• Huh, great idea.
As bird ID is too simple, and so is bird counting (I've been on a waterbird census for decades, involving skulking species, "confusion" taxa, sites with 100,000s...) this is just what we need to keep us occupied in the field. Or, I will invent an auto device, you retail it. We call it BX-Visio, B for binoculars. So far I have worked out the most difficult part of the design, which is, we need a detector for G,B,R wavelengths...
Tip (for all): For more on the Conquest HDX there's a thread outside of this Zeiss subforum: it's in a special section between the manufrs. subforums and the section below with threads on general bino topics.
• Puzzled why you co-relate Germany with Zeiss only, what about Leica?
• Am intrigued to know the %s (G-B-R) in Austria!
• Huh, great idea.
As bird ID is too simple, and so is bird counting (I've been on a waterbird census for decades, involving skulking species, "confusion" taxa, sites with 100,000s...) this is just what we need to keep us occupied in the field. Or, I will invent an auto device, you retail it. We call it BX-Visio, B for binoculars. So far I have worked out the most difficult part of the design, which is, we need a detector for G,B,R wavelengths...Tip (for all): For more on the Conquest HDX there's a thread outside of this Zeiss subforum: it's in a special section between the manufrs. subforums and the section below with threads on general bino topics.
John A Roberts
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Hi adhoc,
In relation to Austria I don’t know the Green/ Blue/ Red breakdown.
However, one statistic from Swarovski that's consistent from year to year, is that it exports 90% of production
- or to put it the other way, 10% of production is sold in Austria!
This was most recently reported at the end of the press release on the introduction of the AX Visio 10x32:
At: SWAROVSKI OPTIK launches world‘s first smart binoculars (click on the button to the right).
While understandably there's a patriotic element, and Austria is an affluent country with strong outdoor traditions,
the population is only just over 9 million people.
John
In relation to Austria I don’t know the Green/ Blue/ Red breakdown.
However, one statistic from Swarovski that's consistent from year to year, is that it exports 90% of production
- or to put it the other way, 10% of production is sold in Austria!
This was most recently reported at the end of the press release on the introduction of the AX Visio 10x32:
At: SWAROVSKI OPTIK launches world‘s first smart binoculars (click on the button to the right).
While understandably there's a patriotic element, and Austria is an affluent country with strong outdoor traditions,
the population is only just over 9 million people.
John
jan van daalen
Well-known member
Hi A,Thanks, Jan.
• Puzzled why you co-relate Germany with Zeiss only, what about Leica?
• Am intrigued to know the %s (G-B-R) in Austria!
• Huh, great idea.
Tip (for all): For more on the Conquest HDX there's a thread outside of this Zeiss subforum: it's in a special section between the manufrs. subforums and the section below with threads on general bino topics.
You/we could sell that auto device to G,R and B. Gottobe a hugh marketing improvement.......
The 'Germany' issue is hunting related. Much bigger in regards to birding over there. From all German traders (dealer meetings) the mantra is Zeiss, Zeiss, Zeiss.
Jan
Jan: Yes, need to work that out.
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant by, Germany is Zeiss territory. Now see you mean it is (empirically) known that Zeiss is the most popular in Germany out of G-B-R.
Also very interesting is, where does Leica sell well, and, what is the (say, annual) total production quantity ratios G:B:R, even just the ratios roughly.
John: Then the B+R to G sales ratio in Austria must be very tiny!
I think I read in BF that Meopta's production facilities are larger than those of Swaro., Zeiss, or Leica, or, could it have been, even possibly all three combined! Appreciate a pointer to the post or to the thread, where that, or something like that, was said.
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant by, Germany is Zeiss territory. Now see you mean it is (empirically) known that Zeiss is the most popular in Germany out of G-B-R.
Also very interesting is, where does Leica sell well, and, what is the (say, annual) total production quantity ratios G:B:R, even just the ratios roughly.
John: Then the B+R to G sales ratio in Austria must be very tiny!
I think I read in BF that Meopta's production facilities are larger than those of Swaro., Zeiss, or Leica, or, could it have been, even possibly all three combined! Appreciate a pointer to the post or to the thread, where that, or something like that, was said.
jan van daalen
Well-known member
Hi A,Jan: Yes, need to work that out.
Sorry, misunderstood what you meant by, Germany is Zeiss territory. Now see you mean it is (empirically) known that Zeiss is the most popular in Germany out of G-B-R.
Also very interesting is, where does Leica sell well, and, what is the (say, annual) total production quantity ratios G:B:R, even just the ratios roughly.
John: Then the B+R to G sales ratio in Austria must be very tiny!
I think I read in BF that Meopta's production facilities are larger than those of Swaro., Zeiss, or Leica, or, could it have been, even possibly all three combined! Appreciate a pointer to the post or to the thread, where that, or something like that, was said.
I pleet guilty as charged....
Last time Gijs and I visited the Meopta plant in Prerov it became clear that the plant is HUGE in square meters.
Meopta comes from Mechanica&Optica and currently (2024) the mechanic side (read: military) has completely taken over the optics side.
As a result of this the outsourcing to China of their non military optics production is unfortunate but reality.
Jan
Conndomat
United States of Europe
Jan, I don't think Zeiss binoculars are still bought very often by hunters in Germany.
Unfortunately, hunting at night has been allowed here for several years now. The hunters' lobby has got its way, which means hunters are increasingly using night vision devices and thermal imaging cameras and there are tons of Zeiss binoculars to be found on online portals.
Andreas
jan van daalen
Well-known member
Hi Andreas,
The 'tons' would prove my point if there weren't 'tons ' of Leica and Swaro's also to be found.
What is sold a lot come back a lot, what's not will be less.
Do you have a rough idea about the amount of used Zeiss/Leica/Swaro's to be found?
BTW, sales in new bins is completely seperated from used ones.
tenex
reality-based
There was a whole thread about this that you could look for, it hasn't seen posts for a while. What I recall is that even across the US, results vary considerably even as to how many alphas are carried at all. Definitely in the minority around here, and mostly of BN/FL vintage. And of course birders are only one market...
Conndomat
United States of Europe
Hello Jan,
a look at eBay classifieds Germany is enough...
Swarovski: 3 pages
Leica: 3 pages
Zeiss: 32 pages
Zeiss has always been a very popular manufacturer among hunters in Germany. Since night hunting has been allowed, more and more binoculars have ended up on the portals. There is almost an oversupply of the 8/10x56 and 8/10x54, and you can sometimes get these binoculars very cheaply.
I think here in Germany the market for manufacturers that are specifically aimed at hunters is becoming increasingly thin.
Andreas
jan van daalen
Well-known member
Hi Andreas,
Thx for this.
It certainly proofs (IMHO) that Germany is Zeiss territory. Hunting is the biggest marketshare in optics in Germany. By definition they need a bin so they will turn to 42/32. Probably made/designed by a certain German brand.....
@T,
I wasn't aware of that. Thx, I'll look it up.
Jan
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MiddleRiver
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I also remembered such a thread - searched and could not find it…
Around here I see 90% or more <$1000 bins. Occasional ‘expert birder’ will have Zeiss or Swaro. Rarely Leica.
