Ducks on Fuerteventura (1 Viewer)

[juancar dieguez]

Hola, dos anatidas para identificar de hoy 14-12-2023 en fuerteventura, en el club de golf que hay desde hace unos días una Spatula discors..
gracias

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Hello, two ducks to identify today 12-14-2023 in Fuerteventura, in the golf club that has had a Spatula discors for a few days now.
thank you

 

[Butty]

Tame? - from angle of 2nd photo. My first guess would be domestic ducks.

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hello Juancar,

do you have more pictures?
I cant add anything confident about your first bird (although it gives a non european impression to me, with a Teal the most similär species, but it isnt one imo....)

Your second bird is a Garganey imo, with a very good classic head pattern and white fringes to the tertials

 

[juancar dieguez]

Subo tres fotos del día anterior, del segundo ave.

 

[Bismarck Honeyeater]

No. 1 Looks like Marbled Duck - Marmaronetta angustirostris

Quite rare on Fuertaventura

 

[Stephen Dunstan]

Tame? - from angle of 2nd photo. My first guess would be domestic ducks.

I don't think either of them look like domestic ducks.

 

[Bewick]

No. 1 Looks like Marbled Duck - Marmaronetta angustirostris

Quite rare on Fuertaventura

Blue on the folded wing is wrong for a marbled duck. Head-shapes wrong as well.

 

[sicklebill]

Blue on the folded wing is wrong for a marbled duck. Head-shapes wrong as well.

They look like Mallard derivatives to me

 

[Bismarck Honeyeater]

Blue on the folded wing is wrong for a marbled duck. Head-shapes wrong as well.

Well spotted, I just assumed that was photographic abberation.

 

[SteveClifton]

Hello Juancar,

do you have more pictures?
I cant add anything confident about your first bird (although it gives a non european impression to me, with a Teal the most similär species, but it isnt one imo....)

Your second bird is a Garganey imo, with a very good classic head pattern and white fringes to the tertials

I think your first thoughts of
1. Teal
2. Garganey
are both on the money Alexander. Transitional Eurasian Teals are highly variable and can certainly look like this coming out of eclipse (pic 1). Structure and dark bill look good to me too. Picture isn't the best but I can't see anything that would make me eliminate Eurasian Teal just yet.
I think the blue impression is a photo artefact-as no duck sp. would have such a large (in relation to its size) patch of blue on the folded wing.

 

[Butty]

I think the blue impression is a photo artefact

Stretches credulity - given that a) it's such a large and continuous area, b) there's no other artefact in the photo at all comparable to that, c) ducks often do have that sort of colour in that area. I couldn't accept that explanation.

 

[SteveClifton]

Stretches credulity - given that a) it's such a large and continuous area, b) there's no other artefact in the photo at all comparable to that, c) ducks often do have that sort of colour in that area. I couldn't accept that explanation.

Ducks do indeed often have blue or green in that area, but in this bird it spills over beyond where you'd expect to see the border/boundary in for example a Teal or Mallard. It even runs downwards onto the flank, backwards onto the upper tail coverts, and forwards onto the wing coverts!

 

[Butty]

It even runs downwards onto the flank, backwards onto the upper tail coverts, and forwards onto the wing coverts!

I find that a misreading of the photo - which is too fuzzy and too generally-low-quality (no offence) to be at all sure what feather-tracts are involved.

 

[SteveClifton]

I find that a misreading of the photo - which is too fuzzy and too generally-low-quality (no offence) to be at all sure what feather-tracts are involved.

Fair enough, that's a possibility. The other possibility is that it really is blue, like these Eurasian Teals...all showing blue speculums!

 

[Brian J Small]

Hello, two ducks to identify today 12-14-2023 in Fuerteventura, in the golf club that has had a Spatula discors for a few days now.
thank you

On eBird the only images of a claimed Blue-winged Teal I can find are these - https://ebird.org/checklist/S154746851 - which are clearly not correctly identified. And https://ebird.org/checklist/S154113629?_ga=2.20604280.1143691913.1702399814-1092995303.1689690437 - which is

Brian

 

[SteveClifton]

On eBird the only images of a claimed Blue-winged Teal I can find are these - https://ebird.org/checklist/S154746851 - which are clearly not correctly identified. And https://ebird.org/checklist/S154113629?_ga=2.20604280.1143691913.1702399814-1092995303.1689690437 - which is

Brian

Interesting Brian, that the bird in the first link - which is surely a Eurasian Teal (or small/outside chance of Green-winged) is also showing a blue speculum.
It's not easy to tell from these images, but I would say this is a female type, yet the one in post #1 would better fit a faded eclipse drake. They often show heavily faded heads, with patchy traces of new blackish growth, as we can see around the eye/ear coverts & lower cheek area (and possibly also around the chin/bill base on this bird?)

 

[juancar dieguez]

¿Y una Callonetta leucophrys joven?
sorry for the great photos

 

[THE_FERN]

¿Y una Callonetta leucophrys joven?
sorry for the great photos

These don't look like ringed teal to me. For one, that has a green speculum rather than the blue we see here.

 

[Joern Lehmhus]

Teal (possibly eurasian) and Garganey for me

 

[miami]

My fist thoughts were female types of Blue-winged Teal & Garganey...