Garden/Yard List 2022 (2 Viewers)

[Jeff Woad]

I disagree. Even with the awful image quality which I am loathe to draw any firm conclusion from, how can this be deemed as more likely Whooper than Mute?

 

[KenM]

Why did you select an image where the wing masks the face when you had another 12 to choose from?…somewhat orchestrated from my perspective and proves nowt!

 

[Jeff Woad]

Because it appears to show the chunk of black between the eye and bill base that you said was not remotely in evidence.

Apologies if I have orchestrated an alternative view to your own, I should have known better than to get involved.

 

[KenM]

Because it appears to show the chunk of black between the eye and bill base that you said was not remotely in evidence.

Apologies if I have orchestrated an alternative view to your own, I should have known better than to get involved.

The black you refer to is “underneath” the bill!!!
Which ALL Swans have.😮

The “absent” black I refer to is the black wedge between the eye and the bill side…it “doesn’t exist” on my images, thus it can’t be a Mute Swan!

 

[KenM]

Because it appears to show the chunk of black between the eye and bill base that you said was not remotely in evidence.

Apologies if I have orchestrated an alternative view to your own, I should have known better than to get involved.

The black you refer to is “underneath” the bill!!!
Which ALL Swans have.😮

The “absent” black I refer to is the black wedge between the eye and the bill side…it “doesn’t exist” on my images, thus it can’t be a Mute Swan!

 

[Jeff Woad]

Here Ken, does this help?

But I realise now there's no point discussing with you. Not sure why you posted on a forum really.

 

[KenM]

Jeff, I’ve chosen the lower rear adult, as that shows as best as it can, “most” of the upper bill as compared to the rest, hope it helps…

 

[Jeff Woad]

Could it possibly be that in such low quality images, detail is being lost?

Even in your chosen picture there is a darker line between the eye and the bill, just shown more clearly in the one I chose.

Still, just my humble thoughts. I would be recording this as Mute Swan.

Happy birding Ken.

JW

 

[KenM]

Could it possibly be that in such low quality images, detail is being lost?

Even in your chosen picture there is a darker line between the eye and the bill, just shown more clearly in the one I chose.

Still, just my humble thoughts. I would be recording this as Mute Swan.

Happy birding Ken.

JW

If you accept that the exaggerated black shadow which you know is white beneath the chin is just that, then just imagine what the pixelation/artefact would do to a “black wedge” beneath the eye and ending against the bill!

Yes, Happy Birding Jeff.

 

[Ornitomania]

Those who are lucky enough to live near bodies of water with a lot of luck may be able to see this wonder, of course in Italy, Spain and Greece it is more likely