Help with Pewee ID in Tulum, Mexico, photographed in August (1 Viewer)

[Mário Estevens]

Dear all,

I have photographed the illustrated bird at the Sian Ka'an Biosphere Reserve, just south of Tulum, Mexico, in August 19th, 2022. At the time, I logged this bird as Eastern Wood-Pewee (Contopus virens), which is a passage migrant there, in spite of the difficulty in distinguishing this from the Tropical Pewee (Contopus cinereus), specially for an European observer not familiar with these species. Later I found that Tropical Pewee had been split into Northern Tropical Pewee (Contopus bogotensis), which is resident in the area, for which I am not sure anymore of my original identification.

Are these photos enough to assign this bird to any of these species? If so, how may we distinguish between the referred species?

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mário Estevens

 

[THE_FERN]

Without certainty... Looks like tropical pewee based on:

• primary projection is short (as best I can judge it—not easy for me here)
• perhaps some evidence of pale loral spot just behind bill
• perhaps slightly darker crown
• overall colour

 

[Mário Estevens]

Without certainty... Looks like tropical pewee based on:

• primary projection is short (as best I can judge it—not easy for me here)
• perhaps some evidence of pale loral spot just behind bill
• perhaps slightly darker crown
• overall colour

Thanks for the input.

When you write tropical pewee, do you mean Tropical Pewee (Contopus cinereus) or Northern Tropical Pewee (Contopus bogotensis)?

 

[THE_FERN]

Thanks for the input.

When you write tropical pewee, do you mean Tropical Pewee (Contopus cinereus) or Northern Tropical Pewee (Contopus bogotensis)?

Sorry "tropical pewee" was a shorthand for "northern tropical pewee. "tropical pewee" doesn't now exist—at least if you follow ebird/Clements. It's either "northern tropical pewee" or "southern tropical pewee" and in this area it would be northern.

[You may disagree with my conclusion above on ID. However, at least you can see the important characters to consider]

 

[Mário Estevens]

Sorry "tropical pewee" was a shorthand for "northern tropical pewee. "tropical pewee" doesn't now exist—at least if you follow ebird/Clements. It's either "northern tropical pewee" or "southern tropical pewee" and in this area it would be northern.

[You may disagree with my conclusion above on ID. However, at least you can see the important characters to consider]

Thanks for the clarification.

 

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