Nightjar61
David Daniels
Just one new bird this morning.
97. Greater Yellowlegs
Dave
97. Greater Yellowlegs
Dave
Are these birds "countable" now under eBird, or are they listed as escapes? I lost a few birds I considered established, but which eBird says are now considered escapes. I still count them on my personal life list despite what eBird says.(Miami Area)
197. Blue-and-yellow Macaw
198. Orange-winged Parrot
They are countable, they are considered "Provisional" by eBird standards, the only "Escapees" I've seen this year are the domestic geese varieties (Swan and Graylag), Red Junglefowl and a surprise Budgerigar yesterday. But obviously, those don't go on my year or life list.Are these birds "countable" now under eBird, or are they listed as escapes? I lost a few birds I considered established, but which eBird says are now considered escapes. I still count them on my personal life list despite what eBird says.
Dave
Thanks for the information.They are countable, they are considered "Provisional" by eBird standards, the only "Escapees" I've seen this year are the domestic geese varieties (Swan and Graylag), Red Junglefowl and a surprise Budgerigar yesterday. But obviously, those don't go on my year or life list.
With that said, since a lot of these exotics are countable by eBird, I'm getting more and more out of state birders that want me to show them those birds, since they go by eBird rules, instead of ABA rules (much more fun to add 8 parrot species to your life list, instead of 2).
I know there was a decent population back then, I actually guided some birders from Central Florida this weekend and one of them talked about it. Seems like one of the main factors why they disappeared was that someone who actively fed them sold their property and the new owners didn't feed the birds. Not sure how reliable that information is, but considering they knew the property owner and saw the disappearance firsthand, I think there's a bit of truth to it.Thanks for the information.
Incidentally, one of the birds I lost was Budgerigar. I saw them in the mid-1990s in the St. Petersburg, Florida area when they were well established and on the ABA Area List. They were common enough that you could easily see them perched on wires while driving down the street. It's my belief that if I saw them when they were considered established and countable, then they should still count on my eBird list, even though they are extirpated now. I can understand not counting an escaped cage bird, but in this case, they were certainly not pets that got loose. Just my two cents.
Dave