I was with you on everything you said until you got to the part where you said , buy from China. I got a big issue with China, as many others do. Mistakes were made by the west a few decades ago and this is the beginning of paying the price. I’d be willing to wager that if we’re (most of us hopefully) still around 5-10 years from now things are going to be real dark. I was a huge buyer of MIC before the pandemic and the global initiative, a nice phrase for , but I’m not going to hijack the thread.
I wonder … in about every third post from you, I read that you got a big issue with China / MIC, followed sometimes quickly by a statement that you don‘t want to „hijack the thread“. Why then not leave the China remark away altogether ?
I think it’s more like every sixth or seventh post, but I’m glad your counting. A lot of people here have issues with MIC, why wouldn’t people have an issue with China, where you been. Maybe you just like my posts better. Have I hijacked any posts in the last few months? Did I not voice an opinion then get right back on topic. Why should I leave out an opinion about what binos someone might choose based on where it made? There are many people here calling people idiots for this or that, Some here today just called a whole group of hunters idiots. Can’t I have similar opinions about people who will buy stuff from a communist country that is responsible for some horrendous things, it appears some people are oblivious to the things going on around them. I hope that explains why I don’t leave it out.
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I wasn’t accusing you of anything, just making a statement if one has a choice , or to hold off until one does.
I have no Oberwerks, I do my best to check labels on everything, and if there are other options other than MIC ,even at substantial costs that’s the way I go. I do not want to send money to the evil Empire, as you describe them, I do like that description though. What would anybody want to, just to save a few bucks?
This is unfortunate but true, not lots of choices under a grand. There is always used, even if they’re used MIC.
That’s true , I wonder that myself. That’s actually an interesting point ,a lot of people right now are walking around with Leica binoculars that say made in Germany, but they were made in Portugal. Not applicable to this conversation but I’d figured I’d throw it out here.
Philipp, I get it, I really do. I know not everybody can spend thousands on toys and buying MIC when we can get inexpensive good quality items that many can afford. But for god sakes sometimes we have to look at the big picture , and consider where our money is being spent and our future.Oberwerk 8x32SE Quick look.
Oberwerk 8x32SE We will be taking these out over the weekend and comparing them to Nikon 8x32SE, 8x30E2, E (C version), 8x30 Habicht and a few mid to high-end roofs. First impressions , they are kind of big/bulky for a 32. I think the extended objective barrels are partly to blame for this ...Which binocular(s) did you use today?
Foot-o bomb Yes, only noticed it afterwards and was too lazy to take new pics :ROFLMAO: .
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I explain because I like you😂. They were bought for a client who had asked me what to buy, I recommended others, but he wanted the Oberwerk thinking they were like the Nikons hes heard about. He was going to buy them, so I bought them for him as a gift for a client my convoluted thinking was either way they were going to be bought, so I figured I’d get them for and try them out until he got back from overseas. Mission accomplished.
You make a good point, its called boycotting a company because they do business with entities we don’t like. I’m not there yet, but maybe down the line. I just don’t want to give my money directly to a product made in China. I wouldn’t throw away anything that was already bought, the money was already spent. I have quite a few Chinese products that were bought prior to the evil empire exposing themselves openly. I also don’t like countries that threaten our political representatives if we visit a country they don’t want us to.
There are a lot of binocular models that are still in production that used to be MIJ that are now being MIC.
Really , maybe you can share your research. I’m always looking for good quality reasonable priced optics that are not MIC.
Yeah we did, my apologies to the OP. 🙏🏼✌🏼.I think we hijacked the thread enough by now
