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Latest IOC Diary Updates (4 Viewers)
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Andy Adcock
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Many thanks.
Andy Adcock
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Anyone know who's behind this and what the justification is?
June 24 Post PS of Malaysian Crested Argus Rheinardia nigrescens from Vietnamese Crested Argus Rheinardia ocellata
Wiki seems to have actioned the split already?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crested_argus
June 24 Post PS of Malaysian Crested Argus Rheinardia nigrescens from Vietnamese Crested Argus Rheinardia ocellata
Wiki seems to have actioned the split already?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crested_argus
James Lowther
Well-known member
in general (brief) rationale for proposed splits is given on this page
https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/proposed-splits/
cheers,
James
https://www.worldbirdnames.org/updates/proposed-splits/
cheers,
James
Andy Adcock
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Thanks James, Alex.
No mention of DNA analysis and I thought I read recently that the 'Tobias criteria' were being abandoned by many scientists or have I got that wrong?
No mention of DNA analysis and I thought I read recently that the 'Tobias criteria' were being abandoned by many scientists or have I got that wrong?
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Many but not all
johnallcock
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Really easy to see on the south China coast and not difficult to ID once you know what to look for. Occurs alongside Kentish in winter, with differences in habitat preference, but ID is of course even easier in summer when Kentish aren't present. We even have a breeding record in Hong Kong now.
Andy Adcock
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Accepted.
Andy Adcock
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A lot of re-ordering going on.
I see the name 'Penhallurick, I assume this is John whom I met once in Thailand, he was latterly, pretty ill, anyone know if he's still alive?
July 1 Revise sequence in Leiothrichidae based on Cai et al. (2019).
July 1 Recognize the family Alcippeidae composed of the fulvettas remaining in Alcippe (not moved to Schoeniparus) which are separated from the ground babblers (Pellorneidae) due to deep genetic divergence. It is a sister clade to Leiothrichidae (Moyle et al. 2012; Cai et al. 2019).
July 1 Revise sequence and genera in Pellorneidae based primarily on Cai et al. (2019)
July 1 Revise sequence and genera in Timaliidae based primarily on Cai et al. (2019)
June 29 Recognize Paradoxornithidae as a family separate from Sylviidae and revise sequence and genera within that family Cai et al. (2019) and modified by Penhallurick & Robson (2009). In addition to the parrotbill genera, Paradoxornithidae also includes: Myzornis, Moupinia, Lioparus, Chrysomma, Rhopophilus, Fulvetta, and Chamaea.
June 29 Revise sequence and genera in Sylviidae based primarily on Cai et al. (2019)
June 28 Move PL of Canary Islands Oystercatcher and AL of Black-headed and Venezuelan Fruiteaters to inactive catergory.
I see the name 'Penhallurick, I assume this is John whom I met once in Thailand, he was latterly, pretty ill, anyone know if he's still alive?
July 1 Revise sequence in Leiothrichidae based on Cai et al. (2019).
July 1 Recognize the family Alcippeidae composed of the fulvettas remaining in Alcippe (not moved to Schoeniparus) which are separated from the ground babblers (Pellorneidae) due to deep genetic divergence. It is a sister clade to Leiothrichidae (Moyle et al. 2012; Cai et al. 2019).
July 1 Revise sequence and genera in Pellorneidae based primarily on Cai et al. (2019)
July 1 Revise sequence and genera in Timaliidae based primarily on Cai et al. (2019)
June 29 Recognize Paradoxornithidae as a family separate from Sylviidae and revise sequence and genera within that family Cai et al. (2019) and modified by Penhallurick & Robson (2009). In addition to the parrotbill genera, Paradoxornithidae also includes: Myzornis, Moupinia, Lioparus, Chrysomma, Rhopophilus, Fulvetta, and Chamaea.
June 29 Revise sequence and genera in Sylviidae based primarily on Cai et al. (2019)
June 28 Move PL of Canary Islands Oystercatcher and AL of Black-headed and Venezuelan Fruiteaters to inactive catergory.
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Andy, if you are talking of the Australian ornithologist John Penhallurick (who ran Worldbirdinfo), I'm sad to inform you that he seems to have passed in 2014. See, for example, here, or elsewhere.
R.I.P.
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jurek
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Regarding Crested Argus, I think an urgent conservation action is needed.
Edward's Pheasant has been extinct in the wild for a decade, mammals kouprey and saola are probably extinct too. Edward's pheasants are living well in cages, but there is no Crested Argus of any form breeding in human care.
Edward's Pheasant has been extinct in the wild for a decade, mammals kouprey and saola are probably extinct too. Edward's pheasants are living well in cages, but there is no Crested Argus of any form breeding in human care.
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Andy Adcock
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Yes, that's him, thanks for the news.
We met him at the Gurneys Pitta site in Thailand where he was elated at having a brief, flight view of a female after being on site for a week!
John seemed like a nice man.
awiner
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No, both these proposals were rejected by the AOS.
Andy Adcock
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Some Tapaculo action...............
Diary
2020
July 30 Accept three newly described Scytalopus species, White-winged Tapaculo S. krabbei, Jalca Tapaculo S. frankeae, and Ampay Tapaculo S. whitneyi (SACC 852, SACC 853, SACC 854).
July 30 Accept split of Loja Tapaculo Scytalopus androstictus from Paramo Tapaculo S. opacus. (SACC 855).
Diary
2020
July 30 Accept three newly described Scytalopus species, White-winged Tapaculo S. krabbei, Jalca Tapaculo S. frankeae, and Ampay Tapaculo S. whitneyi (SACC 852, SACC 853, SACC 854).
July 30 Accept split of Loja Tapaculo Scytalopus androstictus from Paramo Tapaculo S. opacus. (SACC 855).
Andy Adcock
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Aug 5 Post proposed split of Magellanic Snipe Gallinago magellanica from South American Snipe Gallinago paraguaiae.
Aug 5 Post proposed split of Yungas Sparrow Rhynchospiza dabbenei from Stripe-capped (Chaco) Sparrow Rhynchospiza strigiceps.
Aug 5 Post actual lump of Mato Grosso Swift Chaetura viridipennis with Chapman’s Swift C. chapmani.
Aug 5 Post actual split of Ashy-tailed Swift, Chaetura andrei from Vaux’s Swift Chaetura vauxi.
Aug 4 Accept spit (sic) of Utcumbamba Tapaculo Scytalopus intermedius from Blackish Tapaculo S. latrans.
Aug 4 Accept split of Diamantina Sabrewing Campylopterus diamantinensis from Grey-breasted Sabrewing C. largipennis.
Aug 5 Post proposed split of Yungas Sparrow Rhynchospiza dabbenei from Stripe-capped (Chaco) Sparrow Rhynchospiza strigiceps.
Aug 5 Post actual lump of Mato Grosso Swift Chaetura viridipennis with Chapman’s Swift C. chapmani.
Aug 5 Post actual split of Ashy-tailed Swift, Chaetura andrei from Vaux’s Swift Chaetura vauxi.
Aug 4 Accept spit (sic) of Utcumbamba Tapaculo Scytalopus intermedius from Blackish Tapaculo S. latrans.
Aug 4 Accept split of Diamantina Sabrewing Campylopterus diamantinensis from Grey-breasted Sabrewing C. largipennis.
Andy Adcock
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How are these splits getting done so quickly after proposal, just two days?
Aug 7 Accept split of Magellanic Snipe Gallinago magellanica from South American Snipe Gallinago paraguaiae.
Aug 7 Accept split of Yungas Sparrow Rhynchospiza dabbenei from Stripe-capped (Chaco) Sparrow Rhynchospiza strigiceps.
Aug 7 Accept split of Magellanic Snipe Gallinago magellanica from South American Snipe Gallinago paraguaiae.
Aug 7 Accept split of Yungas Sparrow Rhynchospiza dabbenei from Stripe-capped (Chaco) Sparrow Rhynchospiza strigiceps.
DDonsker
David Donsker
Andy,
These have already been accepted and openly discussed by the SACC which we closely monitor concurrently as the case is being evaluated by that regional checklist committee. So they have been pondered for quite some time by us. In these recent cases, the IOC is playing catch-up. We should have listed them all as PS cases when they were first posted by the SACC but got behind the eight-ball in that regard while we were focused on the massive IOC 10.2 update.
David
These have already been accepted and openly discussed by the SACC which we closely monitor concurrently as the case is being evaluated by that regional checklist committee. So they have been pondered for quite some time by us. In these recent cases, the IOC is playing catch-up. We should have listed them all as PS cases when they were first posted by the SACC but got behind the eight-ball in that regard while we were focused on the massive IOC 10.2 update.
David
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