Moth ID help - various species (1 Viewer)

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So rather near the end of the year, but got my moth trap out at last and started to try and work out what I'm actually catching as opposed to just getting pretty pictures of moths.

I've been trying to work these out and would greatly help any help in confirming and identifying the following. I hope to keep rolling photos into this thread instead of starting up 50 threads.
I'd welcome any advice as well as what tell tail signs/ID guide/information led to identifications so that I can put that information into use next time.

I've mostly used the Field Guide to the Moths of Great Britain and Ireland (revised/2nd edition) by Waring and Townsend

1) Lunar Underwing (Omphaloscelis lunosa)
2) Lunar Underwing - patterns look the same as the first and I think its the same.

3) Large Yellow Underwing (Noctua pronuba)
4) Large Yellow Underwing

5) Copper Underwing (Amphipyra pyramidea)

 

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6) Yellow-line Quaker (Agrochola macilenta)

7) Same moth, different angle for the shoulder dark spot not as clear as on the first photo

 

[davidg]

No 6/7 is Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing. All the others are correct although no 5 could be Svensson's Copper Underwing. You'll need to check the extent of colouring on the underwing to be sure.

David

 

[aeshna5]

Agree with 1-4. 5 could be either of the Copper Underwing species without close look.
6/7 looks like Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing to me. Not YLQ!

 

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Many thanks both. I didn't really notice the Broad-bordered Yellow Underwing first time as the book has a much darker pattern on its closed wing drawing, the open wing though does have a similar colouration. I should have known by shape though as the more I look at it the more the quaker has the wrong wing profile when at rest.

On the copper I don't have an underwing photo to confirm, the only other photo I have of it is of the face.

I don't really fancy flipping moths over as they are still alive, and tend to either close up fully or flail around like mad until they right themselves* (depending on how cold/torpid they are). I have considered getting a clear glass sheet to photograph through though I've not really looked into that much as yet.



*When they do accidentally end up upside down.