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[andrew147]

What do you think about this generic classification of Emberizidae?

Hylospina, Melophus, Granativora, Onychospina, Miliaria, Koslowiza, Cia, Emberiza, Fringillaria, Cosmospina, Latoucheornis, Cristemberiza, Schoeniclus, Ocyris

Yes, similar to what I have though I keep the core Emberiza group as subgenera. Also (i) I thought Onychospiza was invalid; (ii) not sure about Koslowiza - IMO uninformative and too similar to Kozlowia Bianchi, 1907...

I've thought up a few names for some of the taxa in my second list - but I cannot come up with anything remotely elegant for Sandhill Crane. Please work some magic for Antigone canadensis!

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Yes, similar to what I have though I keep the core Emberiza group as subgenera. Also (i) I thought Onychospiza was invalid; (ii) not sure about Koslowiza - IMO uninformative and too similar to Kozlowia Bianchi, 1907...

My Koslowiza is very cool 😮 The bird has no notable features. Perhaps Compsospina

Biscotte, it's Onychospina, with a N, not a Z

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

I've thought up a few names for some of the taxa in my second list

I want to see that

- but I cannot come up with anything remotely elegant for Sandhill Crane. Please work some magic for Antigone canadensis!

Plesiogeranus

 

[andrew147]

My Koslowiza is very cool 😮 The bird has no notable features. Perhaps Compsospina

Biscotte, it's Onychospina, with a N, not a Z

Compsospina is great - it is a very attractive species after all. And Plesiogeranus, thanks! I really appreciate having names attached to these taxa, even if they are just temporary place holders.

re Onychospina, the z was a mistake, we are talking about the same name. Some sources (e.g. Koblik (2007) and TiF) have Spina as the correct name for fucata... I don't know what is correct, bunting nomenclature is messy.

Informal names I've added to my list (type is simply the first named species):

Genus Xerotinamus (type: cinnamomeus) for 'Crypturellus' occidentalis, cinnamomeus & transfasciatus

(Sub)genus Petroperdix for Pternistis swierstrai

(Sub)genus Monticolinus (type: erckelii) for Pternistis camerunensis, nobilis, atrifrons, castaneicollis, ochropectus & erckelii

Genus Archaeocentor (type: ateralbus) for 'Centropus' milo, ateralbus, chalybeus & menbeki

Genus Ruficentropus for 'Centropus' unirufus

(Sub)genus Lankacentor for Centropus chlororhynchos

(Sub)genus Sundacentor (type: melanops) for Centropus rectunguis, steerii & melanops

Genus Nubotis for 'Neotis' nuba

Subgenus Toco for Ramphastos toco

Subgenus Pseudocerchneis for Falco sparverius

Genus Lombokornis for 'Sugomel'/'Lichmera' lombokia

(Sub)genus Xenoprionops for Prionops alberti

(Sub)genus Auricichla for Geokichla princei, camaronensis, gurneyi, crossleyi, oberlaenderi & piaggiae

I'm a novice at this - please be kind

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Informal names I've added to my list (type is simply the first named species):

Genus Xerotinamus (type: cinnamomeus) for 'Crypturellus' occidentalis, cinnamomeus & transfasciatus

(Sub)genus Petroperdix for Pternistis swierstrai

(Sub)genus Monticolinus (type: erckelii) for Pternistis camerunensis, nobilis, atrifrons, castaneicollis, ochropectus & erckelii

Genus Archaeocentor (type: ateralbus) for 'Centropus' milo, ateralbus, chalybeus & menbeki

Genus Ruficentropus for 'Centropus' unirufus

(Sub)genus Lankacentor for Centropus chlororhynchos

(Sub)genus Sundacentor (type: melanops) for Centropus rectunguis, steerii & melanops

Genus Nubotis for 'Neotis' nuba

Subgenus Toco for Ramphastos toco

Subgenus Pseudocerchneis for Falco sparverius

Genus Lombokornis for 'Sugomel'/'Lichmera' lombokia

(Sub)genus Xenoprionops for Prionops alberti

(Sub)genus Auricichla for Geokichla princei, camaronensis, gurneyi, crossleyi, oberlaenderi & piaggiae

I'm a novice at this - please be kind

Not bad at all

Are you more news about Prionops ?

I was thinking about Pseudolichmera

 

[andrew147]

Not bad at all

Are you more news about Prionops ?

I was thinking about Pseudolichmera

Thanks

I've got Prionops as four subgenera: Knestrometopon, Eressornis, Sigmodus & Prionops but alberti doesn't comfortably fit with any of the others. It's a very unique-looking bird and so obscure - I don't even think there is a photograph of a living individual.

Pseudolichmera makes good sense but there are going to be a lot of Pseudos!

An obvious one, perhaps: Genus Melaceros for 'Anthracoceros' malayanus

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Thanks

I've got Prionops as four subgenera: Knestrometopon, Eressornis, Sigmodus & Prionops but alberti doesn't comfortably fit with any of the others. It's a very unique-looking bird and so obscure - I don't even think there is a photograph of a living individual.

Pseudolichmera makes good sense but there are going to be a lot of Pseudos!

I will send you my classification of passerine genera and you will tell me what should be added

An obvious one, perhaps: Genus Melaceros for 'Anthracoceros' malayanus

Oui

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

(Sub)genus Monticolinus (type: erckelii) for Pternistis camerunensis, nobilis, atrifrons, castaneicollis, ochropectus & erckelii

Oreocolinus Crowe & al., 1992, but it's a nomen nudum. So, Monticolinus is welcome

 

[andrew147]

Oreocolinus Crowe & al., 1992, but it's a nomen nudum. So, Monticolinus is welcome

I think Oreocolinus applies to jacksoni - which is a different lineage of Pternistis... so, still needs a replacement name or fixing of Oreocolinus.

 

[l_raty]

Oreocolinus Crowe & al., 1992, but it's a nomen nudum. So, Monticolinus is welcome

Oreocolinus was a nomen nudum in Crowe et al 1992 (characters differentiating the taxon were given, but a type fixation was lacking), but it is available from Crowe 1993. The type is Francolinus nobilis Reichenow 1908.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

I think Oreocolinus applies to jacksoni - which is a different lineage of Pternistis... so, still needs a replacement name or fixing of Oreocolinus.

So, Monticolinus becomes a junior synonym of Oreocolinus

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Genus Xerotinamus (type: cinnamomeus) for 'Crypturellus' occidentalis, cinnamomeus & transfasciatus

Xerocrypturus to follow the same logic as Crypturornis, Microcrypturus, Orthocrypturus

(Sub)genus Petroperdix for Pternistis swierstrai

Yep

(Sub)genus Monticolinus (type: erckelii) for Pternistis camerunensis, nobilis, atrifrons, castaneicollis, ochropectus & erckelii

So ...lol, Oreocolinus

Genus Archaeocentor (type: ateralbus) for 'Centropus' milo, ateralbus, chalybeus & menbeki

Genus Ruficentropus for 'Centropus' unirufus

(Sub)genus Lankacentor for Centropus chlororhynchos

(Sub)genus Sundacentor (type: melanops) for Centropus rectunguis, steerii & melanops

Ok. Are you sure that no names are available for them ?

Genus Nubotis for 'Neotis' nuba

Many "Neotis" need a genus

Subgenus Toco for Ramphastos toco

Yep

Subgenus Pseudocerchneis for Falco sparverius

I thought Poecilierax to replace the junior homonym Poecilornis

 

[l_raty]

I thought Poecilierax to replace the junior homonym Poecilornis

Poecilornis Kaup (OD -- work noticed on 15 March 1844 in the Intelligenz-Blatt of Serapeum) is, I believe, senior to Poecilornis Hartlaub (OD -- in the Oct 1844 issue of a journal that was known to publish the issue for a month during the next month -- thus presumably Nov).

 

[andrew147]

Ok. Are you sure that no names are available for them ?

Many "Neotis" need a genus

Xerocrypturus - yes, fair enough, I like the symmetry.

No, I'm not sure (I can't ever be sure!). But there are plenty of synonyms for the members of the core Centropus group (e.g. Pyrrhocentor, Polophilus, Nesocentor, Corydonyx, Centrococcyx, Grillia, Megacentropus, Anacentropus) but I've not found any for the outliers.

Yes, I've been thinking about Neotis and some others...

Genus Somaliotis for "Neotis" heuglinii
(Sub)genus Epilachon for "Neotis"/Ardeotis denhami
(Sub)genus Petrocarbo for Leucocarbo magellanicus
(Sub)genus Zonifalco for Falco/Cerchneis zoniventris
(Sub)genus Pseudopomarea for “Pomarea” fluxa, nukuhivae, iphis, whitneyi, mira & mendozae (type: mendozae; sp pomarea was named earlier but may be closer to 'true' Pomarea (nigra))
(Sub)genus Calodacnis for Dacnis venusta
Genus Novidacnis for Dacnis berlepschi
Subgenus Sporopica (type: lineola) for Sporophila lineola & bouvronides
Subgenus Pseudoryzoborus (type: crassirostris) for Sporophila nuttingi, maximiliani, crassirostris & atrirostris
(Sub)genus Duosaltator for Saltator orenocensis
(Sub)genus Viridisaltator (type: albicollis) for Saltator similis, albicollis, striatipectus, coerulescens, grandis & olivascens
Genus Parasheppardia (type: montana) for "Sheppardia" aurantiithorax, lowei & montana
(Sub)genus Chrysostachyris for Cyanoderma chrysaea

 

[andrew147]

Poecilornis Kaup (OD -- work noticed on 15 March 1844 in the Intelligenz-Blatt of Serapeum) is, I believe, senior to Poecilornis Hartlaub (OD -- in the Oct 1844 issue of a journal that was known to publish the issue for a month during the next month -- thus presumably Nov).

Meaning that Poecilornis is available for the falcon and not the tanager. Interesting, thanks.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Poecilornis Kaup (OD -- work noticed on 15 March 1844 in the Intelligenz-Blatt of Serapeum) is, I believe, senior to Poecilornis Hartlaub (OD -- in the Oct 1844 issue of a journal that was known to publish the issue for a month during the next month -- thus presumably Nov).

Ah ouais ? You see, I had thought the opposite ! Cool

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

(Sub)genus Epilachon for "Neotis"/Ardeotis denhami

What's means Epilachon ?

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

• Coracias cyanogaster

Coraciura
(Coraciidae; syn. Coracias † Blue-bellied Roller C. cyanogaster) Genus Coracias Linnaeus, 1758, roller; Gr. ουρα oura tail; "86. CORACIURA, Bp. — 202. cyanogastra, Cuv. — 203. caudata, L. (angolensis, Br. - natalensis, Licht.) — 204. abyssinica, Gm. (senegalensis, Gm.)" (Bonaparte 1854); "Coraciura Bonaparte, 1854, Conspectus Volucrum Anisodactylorum, p. 7. Type, by subsequent designation (G. Gray, 1855, Cat. Genera Subgenera Birds Brit. Mus., p. 136 (Appendix)), Coracias cyanogastra, i.e. cyanogaster Cuvier, 1816." (JAJ 2021)

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

(Sub)genus Chrysostachyris for Cyanoderma chrysaea

Stachyridopsis is probably available for it

 

[andrew147]

Hmmm... the type of Stachyridopsis used to be given as Cyanoderma pyrrhops on the Key to Scientific Names and still is in the Richmond Index. Have you seen the OD?

If Stachyridopsis applies to chrysaea then it is the group consisting of rufifrons, ambigua, ruficeps & pyrrhops that needs a new name.