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New Product Introduction Today From Swarovski ? (12 Viewers)
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tenex
reality-based
Just to answer this question specifically, yes it would be. The Absam ring is produced by a field flattener lens (Swarovision) sharpening the edge of the field, which most binos don't do. That would surely be an extra challenge with this larger FOV, but perhaps Swaro have also found a better and more expensive way of doing it. (I don't find perfectly sharp edges necessary myself; a large sweet spot will do, with edges not too blurry.) I'm curious to see what the NL actually does. I hope I can find something to dislike. (Besides the soap and brush)
Edit: Oddly I see no mention of the usual trademarks Swarovision, -clean, -dur, -bright in the NL manual or descriptions so far.
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ticl2184
Well-known member
Just to answer this question specifically, yes it would be. The Absam ring is produced by a field flattener lens (Swarovision) sharpening the edge of the field, which most binos don't do. That would surely be an extra challenge with this larger FOV, but perhaps Swaro have also found a better and more expensive way of doing it. (I don't find perfectly sharp edges necessary myself; a large sweet spot will do, with edges not too blurry.) I'm curious to see what the NL actually does. I hope I can find something to dislike.
Thanks for that reply....
I would agree ...
Swarovski must have found a way around the Absam ring enigma with the massive FOV it currently promotes.
I'll do a forensic review as I did in 2010, just need to get my hands on a pair..
Cheers
Tim
Thanks for that reply....
I would agree ...
Swarovski must have found a way around the Absam ring enigma with the massive FOV it currently promotes.
I'll do a forensic review as I did in 2010, just need to get my hands on a pair..
Cheers
Tim
jan van daalen
Well-known member
Regarding your edit:
If I remember correctly, I'm told that Swarovski developed complete new plasma coatings to replace the coatings you referred to.
Jan
Really! The NL have all new plasma coatings in addition to all the other improvements. Wow, this is a big update for Swarovski. No wonder there is a waiting list!
Is that sarcasm I read?
wdc
Well-known member
Is that the same as enthusiastic insincerity? 😉
John A Roberts
Well-known member
Regarding the NL and Swarovision, Swarobright, Swarotop and Swarodur
All are mentioned in the flyer ‘NL Pure One With Nature’ dated 07/ 2020
but not Swaroclean - which I presume is just Swarovski’s frequent inconsistency in these matters
The 5 MB flyer in various languages can be found at: https://myservice.swarovskioptik.com/s/article/Fact-sheet-NL-Pure?language=en_US
John
All are mentioned in the flyer ‘NL Pure One With Nature’ dated 07/ 2020
but not Swaroclean - which I presume is just Swarovski’s frequent inconsistency in these matters
The 5 MB flyer in various languages can be found at: https://myservice.swarovskioptik.com/s/article/Fact-sheet-NL-Pure?language=en_US
John
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Gijs van Ginkel
Well-known member
John Roberts post 788,
Swaroclean is an optically indifferent coating, it is only meant to protect the lens surfaces and to prevent moisture adhering to the lens surface. In my opinion it is not worth mentioning, since it is not of vital importance for the function of the binoculars. My Hensoldt Dialyt 8x56 from 1966 is still working very very wel and it did also funcion in rainstorms, use an eyepiece cover that protects just as well.
Gijs van Ginkel
Swaroclean is an optically indifferent coating, it is only meant to protect the lens surfaces and to prevent moisture adhering to the lens surface. In my opinion it is not worth mentioning, since it is not of vital importance for the function of the binoculars. My Hensoldt Dialyt 8x56 from 1966 is still working very very wel and it did also funcion in rainstorms, use an eyepiece cover that protects just as well.
Gijs van Ginkel
NDhunter
Experienced observer
Peter:
Of course you must know that most SV owners are not bothered much if at
all with the maladies you mention. Have you any experience with this model ?
That means those things are not a problem at all for them. When you spend well over
$2,000.00 for a binocular, you just get out there and enjoy using it.
There is no perfect optic or binocular, that is an important thing to understand.
Jerry
NL 12x42 hands-on:
https://www.allbinos.com/index.php?art=179
https://www.allbinos.com/index.php?art=179
Ontario
Well-known member
So far I've managed to test almost 400 pairs of binoculars. Most of my tests can be found on Optyczne.pl and Allbinos.com. My private collection features over 100 classic devices, some of them are, undoubtedly, excellent optical instruments produced by such renowned companies as Docter, Fujinon, Leica, Nikon, Steiner, Swarovski, or Zeiss. The number of binoculars that I've just handled and looked through hits close to one thousand now. In all my years of experience I've never seen an optical instrument better than the Swarovski NL Pure 12x42. I suppose I don't have to add anything more...
PeterPS
Well-Known Member
That's a very strong statement. Can you please describe in what ways the NL 12x42 is better than the SV 12x50? (I own the latter). Also, does your statement mean that the 12x42 is better than the other NLs? Finally can you refer us to your tests on the sites that you mentioned? I thought that the reviews and tests on those sites are done by Arek.
PeterPS
Well-Known Member
Jerry,
Yes, I own/owned all SVs/ELs/FPs: 8x32, 10x32, 10x42, 8.5x42, 10x50 and 12x50, and I speak from experience. Many people on this forum have mentioned the glare issue of the 8x32 (sometimes called a "glare monster") and the RB&AMD problem of the Swaros (especially of the 42mm models), and I am sure you have seen their posts and comments but for some reason you still believe that almost nobody is bothered by these problems. Personally I am not sensitive to RB (although I can notice it) but I was bothered by the glare problem of the 8x32, which is why I sold mine. Of course these Swaro models are wonderful instruments, some of the best, but as you say there is no perfect bino.
Peter
PeterPS
Well-Known Member
Oops, that was only a quotation from Arek's preliminary report. For a moment I believed that zzzzz was Arek.....
Ontario
Well-known member
No shortage of converts ... claiming the NL are the best binoculars they’ve ever looked through
https://youtu.be/EXDUan97TK4
Given the fact all the reviews out there are from industry insiders everybody’s saying the same thing must be legit
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"So far I've managed to test almost 400 pairs of binoculars. Most of my tests can be found on Optyczne.pl and Allbinos.com. My private collection features over 100 classic devices, some of them are, undoubtedly, excellent optical instruments produced by such renowned companies as Docter, Fujinon, Leica, Nikon, Steiner, Swarovski, or Zeiss. The number of binoculars that I've just handled and looked through hits close to one thousand now. In all my years of experience I've never seen an optical instrument better than the Swarovski NL Pure 12x42. I suppose I don't have to add anything more..."
"The center of the field in the NL Pure is amazing, but I am really impressed by the performance on the edge."
"The center is crystal clear – perfect colors, great saturation, excellent contrast. Images are so bright that they almost dazzle you. "
"That's how close the NL Pure is to perfection – it really brushes against it."
https://youtu.be/EXDUan97TK4
Less than a month!:king:
"The center of the field in the NL Pure is amazing, but I am really impressed by the performance on the edge."
"The center is crystal clear – perfect colors, great saturation, excellent contrast. Images are so bright that they almost dazzle you. "
"That's how close the NL Pure is to perfection – it really brushes against it."
https://youtu.be/EXDUan97TK4
Less than a month!:king:
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I mean is this really a surprise, though? If someone said a binocular that cost less than the NL Pure and came out before it was somehow better, Swarovski would be fighting a losing battle.
The question I want to know is HOW MUCH BETTER is the Pure NL than the EL SV, Noctivid, Victory SF, etc?
The 10x is incredibly interesting to me given its wide field and the potential for a stabilized image via the forehead rest, but is it interesting/better enough to force me to sell my SV EL and then add another $1000+ (just an estimate) to pick one up?
Time will only tell, I suppose.
Justin
