Pallid Swift? Turkey (2 Viewers)

[kuzeycem]

Hello,
I saw this bird at Uludağ, Turkey (S Marmara) where both Common and Pallid are known to breed. I'm pretty sure it's a Pallid but would like some other opinions, especially considering juvenile Common. Can they ever show such a distinct eye mask?
I know the photos are bad (and the most crucial two are out of focus) but I think they give a good idea about the bird. It glided a lot and barely flapped its wings during the time I watched it. Photos are completely unedited btw.
As always thanks for your help, which I'm really looking forward to!

 

[KenM]

Clearly Pallid Swift!

Cheers

 

[kuzeycem]

Thank you very much I am also very much on the Pallid camp but that gleaming white forehead and the darker colour in some of the photos are giving me doubts. If it was possible to age this bird from the photos perhaps it could help, no adult nominate Common would have extensive white like this I think.
Still the "alien eye" and broad head is much more Pallid like. Wings look blunter too but perhaps juv Commons also have blunter wings? Ugghh, so confusing! :-C
Attached are some juv Commons off the internet, one even shows a dark saddle!
Any other comments still very welcome. I'm very interested in this species pair to say the least.