GreenRooky
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Shows as in stock to me at 660
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Part of the UK i.e. Northern Ireland is still subject to imposed EU trade laws ........ which breaches the UK Act of Union 1800 Art 6.
Ignorance is a problem.
Ever heard of Brexit?
GreenRooky
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Is for me now as well, odd. Bass & Bligh appear to have stock at the lower price or ffordes a used pair in excellent condition at a decent discount to new
dries1
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yes, and it appears it was not really an exit after all.
Hope you can get an answer while they’re still available.
GreenRooky
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Swarovski Optik's CL Pocket binoculars updated – Adventure 52
SWAROVSKI OPTIK Announces New and Upgraded CL Pocket Binocular Available from Today
sounds like mechanism and ergonomic changes
Just like 158 years of Confederacy since 1865?
Just stop with the ridiculous political fantasy and take a look into making a contribution to the subject in the title of the thread instead.
I am sorry to inform that you are mistaken and I have real-life example to illustrate this. When UK was in the EU Zeiss Germany could send reviiew binos directly to me with no customs charges involved. After Brexit there is a customs charge of £26 on any bino I import (the actual amount might vary with the retail price of the binos, I am not sure about that) so now I would have to ask Zeiss Germany to send the binos to Zeiss UK so they pay the customs charge and then send the binos on to me. Of course this is avoided if I simply deal with Zeiss UK which is what I now do. I just gave this as an example of how Brexit has changed the situation.
I need to add some facts .... for accuracy in Brexit understanding ....
GB (=Scotland, Wales, England) are 100% out of the EU, but not all of the UK is (UK =GB+NI) out of the EU single market.
One of the UK nations, namely NI is still subject (but no democratic input to) to foreign EU laws.
Thus, the Act of Union 1800 Article 6 has been breached (confirmed by UK Supreme court ruling) by the EU via the imposed NI Protocol & Windsor Framework.
So, in one part of the UK, NI, we can get goods from GB and the EU with no import charges.
This may sound good ...... but it is definitely not (for many reasons to not debate here on a binocular forum)
Merely a nonsensical simile to highlight the nonsense posted by another member, who consistently goes off topic to grind his political axe.
tenex
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You know, apart from being off-topic -- and I'm not even sure that it is, in a thread about "Prices" -- it could have been more interesting simply to ask Andy what he meant by remarking that Brexit wasn't really an exit. For example he might have had the Northern Irish quandary in mind (as exup pointed out), or other more obscure legal aspects that I gather are taking some time to fully resolve. Between the complexity of modern economies and unhelpful ideologies and vagaries of human nature, Western nations seem to have become unable to function effectively, public opinion is divided strangely closely on just about anything, and the impulse to merely snipe at one another has become familiar now on both sides of the pond.
Back to the original question, Swarovski does appear somehow to avoid discounts in the US. We have something called "Minimum Advertised Price" which is legal, and obliges retailers not to publish lower prices but doesn't prohibit them from actually selling for less, which they manage by saying "Call for price" instead. But even this doesn't seem to happen with Swaros, so perhaps they do threaten to cut off dealers. (Gordon would surely know the answer?) Many monopolistic practices somehow seem to be tolerated again today in the US, and all the major legal challenges I've heard of lately have come from the EU. (Their results often end up benefiting us here also.) Not that the EU project hasn't been absurdly overdone by now in other respects, but that surely is off-topic.
Back to the original question, Swarovski does appear somehow to avoid discounts in the US. We have something called "Minimum Advertised Price" which is legal, and obliges retailers not to publish lower prices but doesn't prohibit them from actually selling for less, which they manage by saying "Call for price" instead. But even this doesn't seem to happen with Swaros, so perhaps they do threaten to cut off dealers. (Gordon would surely know the answer?) Many monopolistic practices somehow seem to be tolerated again today in the US, and all the major legal challenges I've heard of lately have come from the EU. (Their results often end up benefiting us here also.) Not that the EU project hasn't been absurdly overdone by now in other respects, but that surely is off-topic.
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Yes it was, and you very adroitly managed to snatch the thread away from going back to pricing for binoculars.
Some good points from Tenex though and I hope Dougan luck in finding a decent deal.
Or, looked at it another way - in the interests of the people in both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, we (the UK) have agreed to make movement of people and goods on the island of Ireland as seamless as possible - something that not only our closest partners and allies (the US and the EU) approve of but also, with very little doubt, a sizeable majority of the people of NI. Commit a crime in NI and you'll end up in front of a British judge (as it always has been).
And as Troubadour has hinted at: attempt to do business with our closest neighbours and until recently most important business partners, and you'll be in no doubt that Brexit is a reality. I suppose this is what we voted for (or did we? Didn't even the likes of Nigel Farage and Daniel Hannan say they wanted a Norway-type relationship with the EU prior to the referendum?). So we should be prepared to drink deep of the cup we've prepared for ourselves...
OK let's get back to birding ... how's your Coronation weekend going?
You are entitled to your political opinion, but the hard facts say otherwise....
The NI Protocol and Windsor Framework are not in the best interests of Northern Ireland. The consent principle under the Good Friday Agreement and the balanced conditions that existed in 1998 have been totally undermined ...... hence the Unionist ( British) politicians ( largest designation under the GFA) in NI have refused to operate Strand 1 ( devolved government) that would result in implementation of foreign laws that are undemocratic (no say whatsoever by the NI people) and go against international human rights convention (territorial integrity and national sovereignty of states undermined).
Economically, the largest market for NI is GB by a HUGE margin. So trading across a border that breaches the UK Act of Union is unwise (read idiotic). Getting items from GB (UK internal market once governed by the AoU), is far more costly ....putting NI at massive disadvantage, compared to the other UK nations.
Moreover, when EU laws diverge from GB laws ( Brexit benefit) .... Then NI producers will be forced to abide by the EU rules ...... and further impact competitiveness and ability to trade with their largest customer base. Diversion of trade was supposed to be a key issue that would trigger the NI Protocol Article 16.....but has never been used, but should have been, according to the 'rules'.
There are a small number of low value industries that will continue to operate the same as when the UK was in the EU...... but that will not compensate for the GB trade impact and additional costs forced upon everyone in NI.
So, the NI Protocol and Windsor Framework is ideology only...... in reality it is economically damaging and does not have the consent of the largest designation of people under the GFA....... A complete recipe for long term harm.
Winter is coming.....
PS ...... The Common Travel Area existed way before the EU ..... and this allows travel across the UK and Ireland. ( The EU even tried at one point to ban it to inflict even more damage), even though it had nothing whatsoever to do with them.
PPS ....... Regarding meddling foreigners sticking their noses into UK affairs .... No other country in the world would accept being annexed into the EU as NI has been forced to. The US would not do it with California to Mexico....or England would not with Suffolk to the EU ....... Ukraine has not accepted it with Crimea either.
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