Sparrowhawk / Goshawk French Pyrenees? (1 Viewer)

[Jmead]

Hi all,

Asked this question before but same issue as ever, do you reckon Sparrowhawk or Goshawk? I know both are here, I've seen both before.
Seen just above Bagnères de Bigorre in the French Pyrenees.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Belumat]

It Is a sparrowhawk for me.

 

[Bewick]

Wow, Griffon

 

[Jmead]

It Is a sparrowhawk for me.

Cheers!

 

[Jmead]

Wow, Griffon

There were a few about!

 

[Bewick]

There were a few about!

A dream bird- sadly the trip got cancelled

 

[Jmead]

A dream bird- sadly the trip got cancelled

Where abouts are you traveling from? Not able to come some other time?

 

[Bewick]

Where abouts are you traveling from? Not able to come some other time?

It was too Mallorca but the griffon vulture was basically the bird I was going for- Sadly I was also not too for from your area once, but it was only to bring my cousins to their holiday spot and we didn't quite get there.

 

[Joern Lehmhus]

I would also say sparrowhawk for the smaller raptor

 

[creedence]

On zooming it up I can see the bulging secondaries and rounded tail of a Goshawk

 

[Butty]

...and thick (and fluffy) 'hips'. Not sure about that stubby head though 🤔

 

[tconzemi]

The bulging secondaries should be combined to a very small hand, which this bird does not show, the tail is so iregualr that I guess it is more about tip abrasion than rounded tail.
I had to loock twice to make a comment, especially the first and the last pic look somehow good for Gos whereas the two middle pics are much better for Sprawk.

 

[Farnboro John]

There's no more bulge on those secondaries than on the Southampton Sparrowhawk I've attached below. The head is short and the tail normal for Sparrowhawk: the wings are far too short, especially in the outer part, for Goshawk. It's a Sparrowhawk.

John

 

[Hotspur]

I find the flared secondaries to be less of a useful feature that is open to interpretation but this bird doesnt show the cruciform silhouette typical of goshawk and the rounded wing tips are typical of sparrowhawk.

 

[Butty]

the tail normal for Sparrowhawk

Well, no - not 'normal'. 'Normal' is what your bird's got.