I live near Madrid, about a half hour drive from the city, not far from the airport. Good buster & imperial eagle area.
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The Habicht 10x40 ... (1 Viewer)
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My 10*40 Habicht "feels" to have metal plates...
Per
I just toke a pic to a grifon vultre through the Habicht glass. It was a farely far fliying bird. If you zoom in you get quite a lot of detail. You also get CA, but not suer if it's amplified by the phone lense, or if it's there and I just dont percive it whyle watching.
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Regarding the use I make of Habicht 10x40, it's my allrownd use bin. I do quite a lot of birding with it, and that's the reasson the focusers knob green paint is s bit worn out. 7x42 will probably help me out with this, and specially for, let's say, wolf or lynx awaitings. Just guessing, but they must be much stabler hand heald than the 10x40's, hence confortable for long periods of panning.
I've attempted some bino-scoping before (taking photos with a smartphone through binoculars), and found it very difficult. I take my hat off to you for getting those photos. You would get some outstanding photos with a decent camera, I'm sure! Do you get the bearded vultures/lammergeiers in your area as well, or only the griffons?
regarding the presence of CA in your image - to be honest I think taking a photo through your binocular, especially with a smartphone, often does not show its optical qualities at all well. The moment you add a camera you bring in another completely new optical train that has its own aberrations and other issues. Also, binoculars are designed to look through, rather than to have photos taken through them - an important distinction because the requirements for each are different. The human eye is a far better instrument in terms of autofocus and sensitivity than any camera (that I've ever seen/used anyway). I've been able to directly compare photos taken at the same targets I was observing through binoculars on a couple of occasions, most recently hobbies hawking dragonflies over the reedbeds of RSPB Rainham last weekend, and was really struck by how much better what I saw through the binoculars looked. The only advantage a camera has (albeit a great one) is that it can record images.
regarding the presence of CA in your image - to be honest I think taking a photo through your binocular, especially with a smartphone, often does not show its optical qualities at all well. The moment you add a camera you bring in another completely new optical train that has its own aberrations and other issues. Also, binoculars are designed to look through, rather than to have photos taken through them - an important distinction because the requirements for each are different. The human eye is a far better instrument in terms of autofocus and sensitivity than any camera (that I've ever seen/used anyway). I've been able to directly compare photos taken at the same targets I was observing through binoculars on a couple of occasions, most recently hobbies hawking dragonflies over the reedbeds of RSPB Rainham last weekend, and was really struck by how much better what I saw through the binoculars looked. The only advantage a camera has (albeit a great one) is that it can record images.
Paultricounty
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If your referring to the 7x having a much deeper DOF thus not having to focus as much on near and far objects , then yes that’s true. The image is quite a bit more stable and calm than the 10x. Keep in mind they both weigh about the same , so if it’s a weight thing it won’t make a difference. If it’s the shaking from the higher magnification then you will enjoy the more stable image in the 7x. Two things to consider, the FOV is considerably smaller in the 7x and it’s quite noticeable, the other thing is the focuser tightness can be adjusted or loosened a bit by swarovski service. So if a tight focuser was also making stability worse then the adjustment will help. I had it done to my 7x and it really made the Habicht more enjoyable to use. I’m now considering having it done to my 8x30.
Paul
I've never seen a lammergeier in my spot. They ate reintroducing them back relativelly close by (160 km or so from here, in Gredos) and the radiomarked birds eventually do fly over the plain. Good chances on black vultre and griffon. These tend to roost here, and it's quite often the times we get to see them standing around awaiting the sun heat to fly off.
I'm not an expert in optics, so good to know pix taken through a bin do not necesarily show the binoculars optical quality. Lately I'm taking pictures with my smartphone using the bins and spotting scope. I must stop the trend as I may end up kooked back again to a camera :-&. Hahaha.
Yep, I guess lower mag would hep stability. Also DF would come in handy. Sport fiel of view would be not that awesome though. I have to guive a try to the 7x42
Hermann
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Nice summary of the differences between the 7x42 and the 10x40. I'd only add that I personally find the optics of the 7x42 even better than those of the 10x40. In particular the glare resistance and the contrast of the 7x42 seem me to be a bit better. I also prefer the large exit pupil of the 7x42, even on bright days. When it gets dark the 7x42 kills the 10x40 IMO.
Hermann
Paultricounty
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I feel the exact same way on these two. I sent the 10’s back, I have enough 10’s and they were not as good as the 7’s as you describe. The 7x42 Habicht is a keeper for sure.
Paul
