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Hi all,

I want to ask about if going with a camera model say for example EOS R7 can be a great or better upgrade from old models of DSLRs such as 30D or 7D or 1D Mark III?

Also which R model that is equivalent [or better than] to the old model of Canon 1DX?

I am doing sports photography mainly soccer for a while in the past and stopped, now i want to get back to that, and add birding if possible and wildlife which is rare in my country, but i know the fast camera that i use for sports and actions is the best one for birders also, 1DX was my strong camera for sports and still happy, but it is time for me to upgrade all or most of my old cameras, and for budget i see that R7 is good, but others told me to look at R3 and R6 Mark II, i didn't ask people from Nikon/Sony side, i think i want to stuck with those three brands only.
 
Hi all,

I want to ask about if going with a camera model say for example EOS R7 can be a great or better upgrade from old models of DSLRs such as 30D or 7D or 1D Mark III?

Also which R model that is equivalent [or better than] to the old model of Canon 1DX?

I am doing sports photography mainly soccer for a while in the past and stopped, now i want to get back to that, and add birding if possible and wildlife which is rare in my country, but i know the fast camera that i use for sports and actions is the best one for birders also, 1DX was my strong camera for sports and still happy, but it is time for me to upgrade all or most of my old cameras, and for budget i see that R7 is good, but others told me to look at R3 and R6 Mark II, i didn't ask people from Nikon/Sony side, i think i want to stuck with those three brands only.
Hi

In the absence of any other comments yet, here are my thoughts!

I upgraded from the 7D mk1 to the R7 and was amazed at the improvements, especially for the price and am very happy with the camera.

According to Canon Rumours (if you believe in those), the new Canon flagship camera will be the R1 which is due to be released this year in time for the Paris Olympics. Again, according to the "Rumours" it is already out with selected photographers for field testing. Expect it to packed full of features and expensive when it actually appears!

I cannot comment on sports photography as I do wildlife only.

One final point. you don't mention budget which may be relevant!


Shane
 
Hi

In the absence of any other comments yet, here are my thoughts!

I upgraded from the 7D mk1 to the R7 and was amazed at the improvements, especially for the price and am very happy with the camera.

According to Canon Rumours (if you believe in those), the new Canon flagship camera will be the R1 which is due to be released this year in time for the Paris Olympics. Again, according to the "Rumours" it is already out with selected photographers for field testing. Expect it to packed full of features and expensive when it actually appears!

I cannot comment on sports photography as I do wildlife only.

One final point. you don't mention budget which may be relevant!


Shane
Hi Shane,

Thank you very much for your reply and comment answer.

I am still not decided about my budget as i still think about a dream plan i am trying to finish, if it happens then i can put any budget, if not then i think it will be around $2000-3000 this year if i can't sell my old cameras, if i sold them then i can increase up to $4000-5000 maybe.

I also wanted to have that R7 as a replacement to 30D and 1D3 which are crop factors cameras, later i can think about another replacement or upgrade for 1DX, but i feel like R7 is better for birding but not sports or vise versa, so i have to read and research more.

I will wait that Canon R1, sounds it is a response from Canon to Sony A1 or Nikon Z9 somehow, not sure, if it is so expensive then i might wait or just buy whatever i can afford that time.

Tareq
 
With modern mirrorless cameras there is available excellent subject detection and in some cases eye detection. This is a huge improvement when photographing birds as the camera will focus on the eyes and not on sticks and branches around the bird.

With Canon there is their 200-800mm zoom lens that would be excellent for photographing small birds. It is heavy but that is part of the equation with bird photography. Nothing quite like this lens from Sony or Nikon or third party lens companies. The lens sells for $1900 US which is actually quite reasonable for a lens with its focal length range and quality.

Comparable Nikon camera is their Z8 and with Sony their a7 IV in terms of eye detection and overall autofocus performance.
 
With modern mirrorless cameras there is available excellent subject detection and in some cases eye detection. This is a huge improvement when photographing birds as the camera will focus on the eyes and not on sticks and branches around the bird.

With Canon there is their 200-800mm zoom lens that would be excellent for photographing small birds. It is heavy but that is part of the equation with bird photography. Nothing quite like this lens from Sony or Nikon or third party lens companies. The lens sells for $1900 US which is actually quite reasonable for a lens with its focal length range and quality.

Comparable Nikon camera is their Z8 and with Sony their a7 IV in terms of eye detection and overall autofocus performance.
If i can sell my Canon 1D3 with some other old models then i can think about something new of mirrorless, in fact i am thinking about selling like 4 or 5 cameras together then i can buy two new cameras, also if i manage to sell my old lens Canon EF 100-400 mk1 with let's say TC 1.4x mk2 then i could manage to get that 200-800 also, i could think about selling 1.4x mk3 or 2x mk3 but i don't want to give up everything that fast, i don't know when it will come a time i will need those again.
 
Hi all,

I want to ask about if going with a camera model say for example EOS R7 can be a great or better upgrade from old models of DSLRs such as 30D or 7D or 1D Mark III?

Also which R model that is equivalent [or better than] to the old model of Canon 1DX?

I am doing sports photography mainly soccer for a while in the past and stopped, now i want to get back to that, and add birding if possible and wildlife which is rare in my country, but i know the fast camera that i use for sports and actions is the best one for birders also, 1DX was my strong camera for sports and still happy, but it is time for me to upgrade all or most of my old cameras, and for budget i see that R7 is good, but others told me to look at R3 and R6 Mark II, i didn't ask people from Nikon/Sony side, i think i want to stuck with those three brands only.
At present, Sony A1, Nikon Z8/Z9, and Canon R5 are the best cameras for bird photography in the wild. The Sony 200-600 zoom, Canon 100-500 zoom, and Nikon 180-600 zoom are all well regarded; the Canon 200-800 is a little soft for my tastes. I have used only Canon equipment. The R5 is the closest thing to a 1DX if you are not just interested in stills photography (in which case you might prefer the R3). It has a full-frame, rather than APS-C, sensor like the R7. It is "about" to be updated to an R5 mark II. The biggest difference between DSLR and mirrorless (MILC) is the focusing physics: photography of birds in flight and birds that fill a reasonable portion of the frame are much better with MILC, low-light/slow shutter-speed photography is much better with MILC, but focusing on obscured birds or birds that fill a tiny portion of the frame is still better with DSLR. It took me nearly a year to become fully adjusted to the behavior of MILCs and I am still waiting for better autofocus on small subjects and better recognition of bird eyes...but I'm sure it's coming. The great aspects of MILCs--birds in flight AF, eye AF, and high signal/noise (high ISO) capabilities are why I switched MILC.
 
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At present, Sony A1, Nikon Z8/Z9, and Canon R5 are the best cameras for bird photography in the wild. The Sony 200-600 zoom, Canon 100-500 zoom, and Nikon 180-600 zoom are all well regarded; the Canon 200-800 is a little soft for my tastes. I have used only Canon equipment. The R5 is the closest thing to a 1DX if you are not just interested in stills photography (in which case you might prefer the R3). It has a full-frame, rather than APS-C, sensor like the R7. It is "about" to be updated to an R5 mark II. The biggest difference between DSLR and mirrorless (MILC) is the focusing physics: photography of birds in flight and birds that fill a reasonable portion of the frame are much better with MILC, low-light/slow shutter-speed photography is much better with MILC, but focusing on obscured birds or birds that fill a tiny portion of the frame is still better with DSLR. It took me nearly a year to become fully adjusted to the behavior of MILCs and I am still waiting for better autofocus on small subjects and better recognition of bird eyes...but I'm sure it's coming. The great aspects of MILCs--birds in flight AF, eye AF, and high signal/noise (high ISO) capabilities are why I switched MILC.
Hi Brad and thanks for the answer.

The point or the plan i keep telling myself about is to let that 1D3 [and 30D maybe] to go first, and replace it with something new either latest model or at least something that is out in this last 2-3 years, definitely they should be way ahead better than 1D3 and 30D, and i saw that R7 is the closest i can think about for price and performance, then later when i feel that i am ok more with mirrorless camera and get used to it more and i keep doing photography then i could think about a replacement/upgrade of 1DX too, i watched some YouTube videos where people are still favoring that 1DX line [mk1/2/3] over some MILC, even some still keeping old 1DX against their R5 or R6, and someone mentioned that although that R3 is a fine camera but it has few cons as well, so for me i feel like i can't risk about going that because i won't have any good price for 1DX now, but later i might save something or get paid so i can fund a newer replacement to 1DX, while for R7 i still can buy it even if i didn't sell 1D3 and 30D, but i will eventually.

I also still have 5D classic and 1DsII and 1DsIII, those i also can sell with my Sony A7R so then i can buy like best 2-3 cameras new generation, i was thinking about like Sony A7R6 + Canon Rsomething and maybe Canon R7, this way i am all done, i bought new cameras in the past without selling older models until i just kept many of them around in bags without dust, if i can manage to let say 5-6 bodies go and add more budget a bit then i can buy another 2-3 new bodies, the point is that i don't work [jobless] so that i am always in tight budget and slowly i can save, if i work again then i won't ask.

For lenses, it is a pain in.... when seeing those brands/manufacturers keep making new lenses all the time every year making us confusing about keeping our old new lenses or keep selling and keep buying, i remember when i sold my 70-200 f2.8IS mk1 to get mkII Canon didn't wait long and produced MKIII, i decided to stop buying, it became like a very silly idea keep buying same lens model into newer versions, so now after like 10-14 years i am ready to upgrade for another decade or half decade, and i have to be careful on what to buy, it sounds that most are moving towards MILC leaving DSLRs behind, i can't move completely to MILC yet, but i will try slowly move that once i feel that i am not longer needing DSLR performance, but for lenses i can't also sell all what i have to buy new things, i still have fine strong lenses which were expensive back then such as 300 2.8 mk1 and TS 17/24 and 70-200 mk1, even my 100-400 wasn't cheap but i can think it is no go at all for me now, for still photography i don't need DSLR anymore, while for sports and fast actions maybe i will hold on DSLR for another few years until it is no longer the option.
 
You have a lot to consider. Getting an R7 now and getting used to MILC seems sensible; MILC are changing rapidly now--particularly sensor type, frame rate, and ISO capabilities--so the longer you wait the better/cheaper the bodies should be.
You can use EF lenses on MILC with a $100 adapter, though with less stabilization.
 
You have a lot to consider. Getting an R7 now and getting used to MILC seems sensible; MILC are changing rapidly now--particularly sensor type, frame rate, and ISO capabilities--so the longer you wait the better/cheaper the bodies should be.
You can use EF lenses on MILC with a $100 adapter, though with less stabilization.
Definitely, i am not in rush, also not all my photography is sports or birds, in the past mainly i was doing landscape and city/nightscapes, but then i moved to sports more, then i stopped completely but used photography only for snapshooting my other hobby gear unboxing.

The prices of R6 mkII and R7 and R8 are cheap, i mean each is less than or up to $2000 which is possible affordable for me, while for R5 it is nearly $3000 which means maybe end of this year or next year i have to save only for this camera and stop another hobby funding, while for R3 which i saw it as a replacement of 1DX by press friends i know is a bit too much, i only have to sell my 1DX and one more thing to afford it, so it is not in my plan any sooner, but i heard that there could be R5 mkII by the corner to be out, many are happy with R5 for sports and wildlife/birding, i can wait, but for now the cheapest i can afford as replacement for 1D3 and 30D is either R7 or R8 and a lesser R6II, without selling any of my lenses, as i don't use many lenses for sports anyway, only my old lens Canon 100-400 mk1 i can sell it instantly without thinking as it is no longer useful for me and get something else maybe RF 100-500 or alike.
 
So i don't know how much are old cameras for sale these days such as 1D MarkIII and 30D and 5D classic, add also 1Ds 2 and 1Ds 3 if necessary, once i can determine how much are those then i can decide what to sell and what to keep and what to buy, for my i will hold tight longer on my 1DX and Sony A7R and let all the rest go, but i need to make good selling offers so i don't lose much and i don't wait longer to sell if possible, when i sold my 1D2n in the past i was able to fund 1DX, now i can afford up to $1500 without selling anything, if i sell anything at good prices then i can afford up to $2500-3000, so will see what will happen.
 

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