Where are made the Conquest HD (2 Viewers)

[james holdsworth]

Hi James,

You're telling half of the story.
The former Zeiss distributor told me about the eyecups and the Head of Zeiss Optics told me about the five parts and I ended with "who to believe".
Please, if you quote me do that correctly.
Thanks.

Jan

The quote is correct even if there is a subsequent, contrary one….still no closer to understanding true country of origin.

 

[jan van daalen]

The quote is correct even if there is a subsequent, contrary one….still no closer to understanding true country of origin.

LOL, you do understand you sound exactly like Zeiss.
The Law is the Law (Zeiss).
A Quote is a Quote (James).

Jan

 

[Troubador]

Hi James,

You're telling half of the story.
The former Zeiss distributor told me about the eyecups and the Head of Zeiss Optics told me about the five parts and I ended with "who to believe".
Please, if you quote me do that correctly.
Thanks.

Jan

And since the former Zeiss distributor had recently lost the distributorship, perhaps one can understand why he might not feel friendly towards Zeiss.

Lee

 

[jan van daalen]

And since the former Zeiss distributor had recently lost the distributorship, perhaps one can understand why he might not feel friendly towards Zeiss.

Lee

Which is only a assumption............
Not feeling friendly does not mean he is wrong in this matter.


Jan

 

[Ontario]

Then is it not ironic the crappiest part of the Zeiss Conquest HD is the “Made in Germany” eyecups. 🥸

 

[ZDHart]

Big ole yawn... getting old, isn't it? (At least I am. )

Oh well, carry on! Then again, not much new under the binocular sun to talk about, is there? 🤣

 

[Chosun Juan]

Why is this poor old dead horse still being flogged ! 🙄

😄

Chosun 🙅‍♀️

 

[GrampaTom]

ZD & Chosun,
Cuz we finally got tired of talking about diopter knobs falling of Victory Pockets! Here's an idea... hmm... how about we start a thread on 8X vs 10X?

 

[ZDHart]

We're desperate to converse about binoculars, with a paucity of worthy subject matter. 😳

 

[CSG]

ZD & Chosun,
Cuz we finally got tired of talking about diopter knobs falling of Victory Pockets! Here's an idea... hmm... how about we start a thread on 8X vs 10X?

Oh, 8x absolutely. Wider field of vow and less shakes...

 

[Chosun Juan]

We're desperate to converse about binoculars, with a paucity of worthy subject matter. 😳

There was discussion in a thread(s) years ago which covered precisely this "made in" topic ..... I don't know why some are so vociferous in defence when they already fully know the truth.

I tend to agree with countries with the interpretation that backs the intention of "made in" (ie majority, and/or functionaly constructed in) , rather than countries going by the stict letter of their law - where literally attaching a few letters on a product built elsewhere confers 'made in' status.

Anyway, the buzzards want a go at this carcass now ! 😄


Chosun 🙅‍♀️

 

[Chosun Juan]

ZD & Chosun,
Cuz we finally got tired of talking about diopter knobs falling of Victory Pockets! Here's an idea... hmm... how about we start a thread on 8X vs 10X?

Hmm, that's a topic likely to have at least some applicable logic .....

Far better to tackle something more esoteric - like:
"are you actually 'seeing' what you think you see - or do you just 'think' you see it .... ?"



Chosun 🙅‍♀️

 

[eronald]

And since the former Zeiss distributor had recently lost the distributorship, perhaps one can understand why he might not feel friendly towards Zeiss.

Lee

Speaking professionally, one usually does not get solid proprietary information from a company, PR lie as soon as they open their mouth, it is what they are paid to do - to give nothing away, and supply no information that can be verified. So anything a company claims about its own activities should be denied the benefit of doubt and carefully checked. One gets actual facts and verifiable details from the competition and from "sources". Just apply the same rules as you would to politicians: If someone claimed Boris Johnson married Carrie Symonds at such and such a date and they saw it happen, they are quite possibly right, but you wouldn't expect to get a straight answer about such a perfectly honorable event out of Boris himself or from a government spokesman, would you?

Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds reportedly marry in secret ceremony

Pair exchanged vows at Westminster Cathedral on Saturday, according to newspapers

www.theguardian.com

I can give another typical example: Try and find out about Biden's plan to save the earth from global warming at COP26 from official sources, and you may find a lot of PR material about what is being done for the environment by the new administration- read the snarky comments from left wing guys and environmentalists and you will realise it is all hot air, the substance of any plans Biden did lay out has been quietly removed by his political friends like Sens. Manchin and Sinema.

Edmund

 

[Troubador]

Speaking professionally, one usually does not get solid proprietary information from a company, PR lie as soon as they open their mouth, it is what they are paid to do - to give nothing away, and supply no information that can be verified. So anything a company claims about its own activities should be denied the benefit of doubt and carefully checked. One gets actual facts and verifiable details from the competition and from "sources". Just apply the same rules as you would to politicians: If someone claimed Boris Johnson married Carrie Symonds at such and such a date and they saw it happen, they are quite possibly right, but you wouldn't expect to get a straight answer about such a perfectly honorable event out of Boris himself or from a government spokesman, would you?

Boris Johnson and Carrie Symonds reportedly marry in secret ceremony

Pair exchanged vows at Westminster Cathedral on Saturday, according to newspapers

www.theguardian.com

I can give another typical example: Try and find out about Biden's plan to save the earth from global warming at COP26 from official sources, and you may find a lot of PR material about what is being done for the environment by the new administration- read the snarky comments from left wing guys and environmentalists and you will realise it is all hot air, the substance of any plans Biden did lay out has been quietly removed by his political friends like Sens. Manchin and Sinema.

Edmund

Speaking professionally there are often good commercial reasons why information about new product development is kept secret and protected by non-disclosure agreements signed by employees and sub-contractors and their employees. Surprising the competitors is one motivation and avoiding telling competitors how to develop similar products is another. I have been involved in a few projects such as this in years past. It is not always as simple as PR professionals being congenitally devious and deceitful although for sure this is what it can look like at times.

Lee

 

[Swedpat]

Now it is interesting to know where that salesman got his knowledge from. Is he multi brand optics trader, a Zeiss rep etc.

Jan

It was the responsible salesman of optics at Sweden's biggest astronomy and huntingdealer.

 

[jan van daalen]

It was the responsible salesman of optics at Sweden's biggest astronomy and huntingdealer.

Thx S, seems I'm in good company.

Jan

 

[GrampaTom]

Speaking professionally there are often good commercial reasons why information about new product development is kept secret and protected by non-disclosure agreements signed by employees and sub-contractors and their employees. Surprising the competitors is one motivation and avoiding telling competitors how to develop similar products is another. I have been involved in a few projects such as this in years past. It is not always as simple as PR professionals being congenitally devious and deceitful although for sure this is what it can look like at times.

Lee

Amen.

 

[GrampaTom]

Oh, 8x absolutely. Wider field of vow and less shakes...

Says he/she, tongue firmly planted in cheek?

Think of the fun we can have... again.

 

[CSG]

Says he/she, tongue firmly planted in cheek?

Think of the fun we can have... again.

 

[eronald]

Speaking professionally there are often good commercial reasons why information about new product development is kept secret and protected by non-disclosure agreements signed by employees and sub-contractors and their employees. Surprising the competitors is one motivation and avoiding telling competitors how to develop similar products is another. I have been involved in a few projects such as this in years past. It is not always as simple as PR professionals being congenitally devious and deceitful although for sure this is what it can look like at times.

Lee

Lee,

I don't think most PR people are congenitally devious and deceitful, nor do I think they do it for fun, I think they are trained to be devious and deceitful, because that's basically their job description, and they do it because it pays the bills and beats digging ditches for a living

Of course that's just my opinion as an ex-journalist. On a personal level, I enjoy socialising with them, because they're often very nice, and it does help that they seem to have unlimited expense accounts. They're usually very decent people and after a while you have a relationship, and they don't feed you false info that makes you look bad.

Edmund