Which Phylloscopus? Morocco, Agadir, yesterday (1 Viewer)

[pprsk]

Small warbler seen in Crocoparc around crocodile pools with unusual way of flying for me - flycatching and hovering - which I saw at
Eastern Bonelli's warbler but not at chiffchaff.
Thanks

 

[Val35]

Chiffchaff for me (they do hover)...

Edit : could also be an Iberian Chiffchaff based on range, some do look very much like Chiffchaffs but are impossible to tell apart in the field unless they sing...

 

[Bitis]

Chiffchaff for me too

 

[pprsk]

Thanks for replies, unfortunately they did not call

 

[Valéry Schollaert]

Chiffchaff for me (they do hover)...

Edit : could also be an Iberian Chiffchaff based on range, some do look very much like Chiffchaffs but are impossible to tell apart in the field unless they sing...

Iberian has much longer wings than Chiffchaff, actually, it is more difficult to tell apart from Willow Warbler.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Had tons of 'phylloscs' in Limassol yesterday including a singing Willow Warbler.

 

[pprsk]

Iberian has much longer wings than Chiffchaff, actually, it is more difficult to tell apart from Willow Warbler.

What photo would help? I still have a couple

 

[Val35]

Iberian has much longer wings than Chiffchaff, actually, it is more difficult to tell apart from Willow Warbler.

Ok ! Not familiar with Iberian Chiffchaff...but several articles seem (as this one for example : Iberian Chiffchaff identification: the state of the art — subalpinebirding) seem to suggest that there is some overlap regarding pp length between the two species.
But yes, I agree, this is most likely a regular Chiffchaff

 

[dantheman]

Chiffchaff.

For Iberian, you'd commonly expect some bright greenish to the wing edges etc. Usually a much brighter bird (maybe hence some more confusion to Willow W?).

(Call also distinct - a louder more strident call)

 

[Valéry Schollaert]

Chiffchaff.

For Iberian, you'd commonly expect some bright greenish to the wing edges etc. Usually a much brighter bird (maybe hence some more confusion to Willow W?).

(Call also distinct - a louder more strident call)

Exactly, even the plumage makes Iberian more difficult to distinguish from WW than from CC. We can thus safely identify our bird as a Common Chiffchaff.

 

[pprsk]

Exactly, even the plumage makes Iberian more difficult to distinguish from WW than from CC. We can thus safely identify our bird as a Common Chiffchaff.

Thanks for help