• Welcome to BirdForum, the internet's largest birding community with thousands of members from all over the world. The forums are dedicated to wild birds, birding, binoculars and equipment and all that goes with it.

    Please register for an account to take part in the discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.
Where premium quality meets exceptional value. ZEISS Conquest HDX.

Why are Zeiss so sharp on-axis compared to other binoculars? (2 Viewers)

Here is my current Zeiss trio. The SF 10x32, FL 7x42 and FL 8x32. Only $4000 for all three, or only $1000 more than the price of one NL. It pays to buy used.

They all are very glare resistant, very bright, very sharp on-axis, they have practically no CA, no FP and the armor won't fall off.

Each one has its strong points. The SF 10x32's strong points are FOV and CA control. At 7.5 degree the FOV is huge and the biggest FOV in all the Zeiss lineup and Allbinos says it has the best CA control of any binocular they have ever tested.

The FL 7x42's strong points are brightness especially in low light, DOF, easy eye placement, and the ease of holding it steady.

It is the most unusual binocular of the three, and the superb DOF gives the view an almost porro-like 3D feeling. I have never used a binocular like it.

The FL 8x32's strong points are versatility and compactness, along with the light weight. It is hard to beat a 8x32 for all around use in the daytime, and the FL 8x32 is among the smallest and lightest 8x32 made. Even with the objective covers and rain guard installed, it barely weighs over 20 oz.

View attachment 1596023
I'm trying to imagine why, inevitably, you will sell them.

The 7x42 not enough magnification ...
The 8x32 not AK prisms ...
The 10x32 small exit pupil and/or largish size ...
 
The 10x32 small exit pupil and/or largish size ...
Hello, I think we discussed this in some other thread. I love my SF 10x42, but from my point of view there is no real benefit over a SF 10x32, at day. As long as you setup IPD and eyecups for your face, correctly. It‘s amazing, lightweight, fits my hands perfectly, well balanced, you think you have nothing in your hands. The FOV is big enough for close and mid range, also in the dark woods, it’s very bright, is usable also around 20min after sundown, you can still resolve all details. At long range its in terms of resolution in the same league as the 42.

But at the end of the day, everyone has its own priorities and preferences.

Cheers
 
Hello, I think we discussed this in some other thread. I love my SF 10x42, but from my point of view there is no real benefit over a SF 10x32, at day. As long as you setup IPD and eyecups for your face, correctly. It‘s amazing, lightweight, fits my hands perfectly, well balanced, you think you have nothing in your hands. The FOV is big enough for close and mid range, also in the dark woods, it’s very bright, is usable also around 20min after sundown, you can still resolve all details. At long range its in terms of resolution in the same league as the 42.

But at the end of the day, everyone has its own priorities and preferences.

Cheers
The SF are wonderful binoculars, and if I'd bought a pair of any combination size/magnification I'd probably never sell them (you can see my various dozen or so listed on my account).

My post was tongue in cheek, for the long suffering membership who, over the last 15 years have watched the OP repeatedly buy 'the best' and then only some months later sell them and move on to... 'the best'.

When will time be called on the current three? For what pernickety reason?
How will they be described in the sales advert? 😉
 
It appears the Conquest 8x32 is discontinued. I'm glad I got one anyway. It is clear, sharp, and works well with my glasses. I am very satisfied with it.
 
Hello, I think we discussed this in some other thread. I love my SF 10x42, but from my point of view there is no real benefit over a SF 10x32, at day. As long as you setup IPD and eyecups for your face, correctly. It‘s amazing, lightweight, fits my hands perfectly, well balanced, you think you have nothing in your hands. The FOV is big enough for close and mid range, also in the dark woods, it’s very bright, is usable also around 20min after sundown, you can still resolve all details. At long range its in terms of resolution in the same league as the 42.

But at the end of the day, everyone has its own priorities and preferences.

Cheers
I agree. That is why I bought the SF 10x32 instead of the FL 10x42. I also prefer the 7.5 degree FOV of the SF 10x32 over the 6.5 degree FOV of the SF 10x42.

On the SF 10x42, I also noticed an orange crescent reflection in the lower right of the FOV, and Albinos did to. Zeiss may have corrected this by now, though.

"The Zeiss Victory SF is the proof that it is possible to produce a pair of binoculars with a very wide field of view which is also perfectly corrected. If not for that strange slip-up with reflections beyond the eyepiece's diaphragm, most likely caused by a shiny ring inside tubes which aren’t baffled properly by apertures, you would get an instrument optically perfect, an idea"

 
Last edited:
It appears the Conquest 8x32 is discontinued. I'm glad I got one anyway. It is clear, sharp, and works well with my glasses. I am very satisfied with it.
It definitely feels like the Conquest line might have been discontinued but do we know for sure?
 
Anxiously waiting for the new Conquest HD. I wonder what the price and specifications will be?
At a local birding event, I recently attended the Zeiss rep said there was a plan to replace it but couldn’t give any details. I imagine after they sell most of the current conquest inventory, they’ll probably roll out the new version.
 
Here is a new Zeiss Conquest HD 10x32 for $523.39 with free shipping. I have bought several binoculars from Greentoe and they excellent.

Have you purchased from this website? Zeiss couldn’t confirm if the outfit selling the Conquest HD 8x32 binoculars for $599 was an authorized dealer and suggested purchasing from an established company that was listed on their website.
 
There's probably folk on this forum who haven't got a 'measly $10k' to spend on a car!!!

Besides, when I look through my HT's, which cost me £950.... I wouldn't even spend a 'measly $2k' to get the latest...
To my eyes HT's are as good as it gets...an absolute classic, designed to be the best they could do at that time, not built to company budgets. Same with the FL's.
As long as you're not bothered by flat field, and this weird obsession with sharp to the VERY edge.... who looks at the edge when viewing.... its human nature to centre the image. I have NEVER understood this.
But then I'm a guy who preferred Meostars to Pures, as a viewing pleaure, not a technical side by side analysis.

I'll pay one tenth of your 'measly 10k' and keep my astonishing HT's.

In a direct comparison between HT and SF 8x42 over a period of time I preferred the HT in every way, except perhaps handling. Sharper, better contrast and colours, also brighter but that doesn't concern me too much. Of course the usable FOV is less but it's not an issue for me. SFs always look a bit 'dulled' to me in terms of their contrast and colour, and they are missing both blue and red to some extent compared to the very best in my opinion. The sharpest 8x42 I have ever looked through is my current one - a Leica Noctivid. The colours and contrast are also a cut above the SF, with the penalty of a tiny bit more lateral CA unless you get your eye position exactly right.
 
Have you purchased from this website? Zeiss couldn’t confirm if the outfit selling the Conquest HD 8x32 binoculars for $599 was an authorized dealer and suggested purchasing from an established company that was listed on their website.
Yes, but once you make a deal, you never make it public where you purchased the binoculars from. Greentoe is kind of a middleman that makes a deal for you with a dealer, and then the dealer ships the binocular to you.

For returns, you will deal with the dealer you purchased them from. It works great. I bought a new Zeiss SF 10x32 for $1750 with free shipping through Greentoe.

It is not gray market or anything like that. You register your binoculars with Zeiss the same way as you do with any other dealer. You just don't post the name of the dealer on any website or forum or advertise it.
 
Last edited:
Yes, but once you make a deal, you never make it public where you purchased the binoculars from. Greentoe is kind of a middleman that makes a deal for you with a dealer, and then the dealer ships the binocular to you.

For returns, you will deal with the dealer you purchased them from. It works great. I bought a new Zeiss SF 10x32 for $1750 with free shipping through Greentoe.
Who do you pay for the purchase?
 
Who do you pay for the purchase?
You pay through Greentoe, but the payment goes to the dealer you are buying the binocular from. Try it, you will like it. The dealers ship fast also.

 
Last edited:
In a direct comparison between HT and SF 8x42 over a period of time I preferred the HT in every way, except perhaps handling. Sharper, better contrast and colours, also brighter but that doesn't concern me too much. Of course the usable FOV is less but it's not an issue for me. SFs always look a bit 'dulled' to me in terms of their contrast and colour, and they are missing both blue and red to some extent compared to the very best in my opinion. The sharpest 8x42 I have ever looked through is my current one - a Leica Noctivid. The colours and contrast are also a cut above the SF, with the penalty of a tiny bit more lateral CA unless you get your eye position exactly right.
The Leica Noctivid is a nice glass, and it has very saturated colors and excellent contrast, but it has a lot of lateral CA, it is very heavy for a 42mm and the focuser is in a terrible position, being too far rearward on the binocular to comfortably rest your finger on. For me, the focuser position is a deal killer.

The Zeiss SF has a much bigger FOV with less distortion, way better ergonomics, much lighter with weight rearward weight distribution, better close focus, it is much brighter and has less lateral CA.

The HT is just a slightly improved FL. Allbinos says you are better off buying an FL than an HT because they are almost the same except for the HT glass in the HT and you will save yourself some money. The FL's composite armor will also last longer.

The only advantage the HT has over the SF is slightly higher transmission, but the rest of the advantages go to the SF. The SF has less CA, less distortion, sharper edges and a much bigger FOV.

That is why they discontinued the HT. There was no big advantage to buying it unless you absolutely had to have that extra 2% of transmission over the SF for lowlight use.

"The Leica Noctivid 10x42 is also a great model when it comes down to brightness. However, in our controlled tests, they only transmitted 1018 Lux to our meter from a controlled light source, confirming the observed brightness and opinions from our test team. Top models were able to pick up and transmit more light, more than 200 Lux in some cases."

 
Last edited:

Users who are viewing this thread

Back
Top