Young Gull at Cildir Lake East Turkey on 1st of September (1 Viewer)

[bubo_bubo]

The image of a Young Gull was made at Cildir Lake East Turkey near the border to Georgia. I am still thinking of Armenian Gull. But the dark brown mantle irritate me. I could not find images of juvenile Armenian Gull in the internet.

Thanks for ID to the experts.

Cheers

Johannes

 

[Muppit17]

The image of a Young Gull was made at Cildir Lake East Turkey near the border to Georgia. I am still thinking of Armenian Gull. But the dark brown mantle irritate me. I could not find images of juvenile Armenian Gull in the internet.

Thanks for ID to the experts.

Cheers

Johannes

There are a number on Macaulay Armenian Gull - Larus armenicus - Media Search - Macaulay Library and eBird

Gull research is much better

Larus armenicus

This website deals with the identification of Armenian Gull. Comparison of plumage month by month.

www.gull-research.org

Here there are a number that seem very similar

It seems promising but I haven't tried to eliminate Caspian or YLG, or even heuglini.

 

[bubo_bubo]

Hi Muppit, thanks a lot. This website is really very helpful...

 

[lou salomon]

a completely juvenile Gull and as such really hard to identify. On bill shape it could be either armenicus or michahellis, both of which usually having replaced some scapulars by sept. 1st, but this could be a late hatched individual. Eye smudge, bill shape and tertial pattern not so good for cachinnans. As for heuglini - could be, but usually heuglini looks much fresher in plumage than this bird, and I think it would be a bit early for a juvenile of that taxon to show up. My bet is a local Armenian Gull but an aopen wing and tail would be really needed to ID it with certainty.