Uk400club 'list Of Lists' Etc Etc (1 Viewer)

[pppppvvvv]

What I'd like to know is..
ok ,we know the UK bird listing scene appears to be a bit "bad tempered" for want of a better word.
This doesn't seem to be the case for the UK uber-listing community.
But what about the other branches e.g. Butterflies, Moths, Beetles, Fungi, Slime moulds ?
Do any of these groups have similar arguments, controversy, and flak flying round especially in the listing element? Or is it just birding?

 

[Jhanlon]

wow, respect to the pan-listers! Anyone left out in the cold by bugs could always try vertebrates... I think I'm just shy of 600 (BOU rules for birds) for mammals, reptiles, amphibians & birds in UK & Ireland, and there are not too many i/d conundrums (bats aside perhaps) so anyone could give it a bash.
Oh bugger, I forgot the fish :smoke:

(Lee - can i have a certificate when I get my 600th? )

 

[squidge]

I'm loving the bickering ladies and gents - haven't watched TV in days. Keep it up :t:

I dont think I can eat any more popcorn!:eat:

 

[Jane Turner]

I think someone needs to turn their irony detector on...assuming that they are in possession of one!

 

[Richard Klim]

Oh bugger, I forgot the fish :smoke:

So, it's a Tetrapoda list!

 

[username]

I think someone needs to turn their irony detector on...assuming that they are in possession of one!

Is that like a metal detector Jane....?



http://username-beast.blogspot.com/

 

[Jhanlon]

So, it's a Tetrapoda list!

that's the one! (and me with a zoology degree, too, duh...)

 

[lewis20126]

What I'd like to know is..
ok ,we know the UK bird listing scene appears to be a bit "bad tempered" for want of a better word.
This doesn't seem to be the case for the UK uber-listing community.
But what about the other branches e.g. Butterflies, Moths, Beetles, Fungi, Slime moulds ?
Do any of these groups have similar arguments, controversy, and flak flying round especially in the listing element? Or is it just birding?

Butterfly listing? - big arguments over tickable Black-veined White and various Long-tailed Blues that arrive in cabbages. Some tick the re-intro Large Coppers - outrageous IMO. Oh yes - it's worse than birding. All those stringy Berger's Clouded Yellows - really, total nonsense...

cheers, a

 

[lewis20126]

How about a Bird Forum Skeptics list?

The rules are that you (or a snitch) have to be able to point out electronic evidence that you have cast doubts on the legitimacy of a record on a public forum, but you have to be a member of BF to compete. Whether you were proved right or wrong or the number of times that you said it is immaterial. Anyone who wants to can be on it,and anyone who wants off need only say.

Should you subsequently retract your criticism, I'll italicise the record. Should you shuffle off this mortal coil or be banned from BF you will be in green ink.

I have a gut feeling that Alan should be in the lead. IBWO is a tart's tick

Irony? I thought it was a good idea! Chalk me up for a reject on the Musselburgh Royal Tern, ALL Elegant Terns in B&I and that Blue-backed Gull on the tip. And for all the muppets, I've seen two out of the three. B

cheers, a

 

[pppppvvvv]

Butterfly listing? - big arguments over tickable Black-veined White and various Long-tailed Blues that arrive in cabbages. Some tick the re-intro Large Coppers - outrageous IMO. Oh yes - it's worse than birding. All those stringy Berger's Clouded Yellows - really, total nonsense...

cheers, a

Interesting..
so the amount of arguments, violence, and animosity is inversely proportional to the number of species up for grabs.

UK Butterflies: ~60 species, extreme level of violence
UK Birding: ~600 species, moderate level of violence
Pan-listing 70,000 species, total harmony.

this also could explain why there is no UK Slime mould listing scene.. with only 4 species up for grabs the listers have all murdered each other.

There's my PhD.!

 

[chowchilla]

I guess that's why most people specialise Lee, its easy to know a little about a lot, but you can only ever know a lot about very little - if you see what I mean.

I guess that's why I'm a distinctly average birder (although I'm distinctly better with calls), because I also study the local reptiles, frogs, mammals, butterflies and trees, and make half-arsed attempts at other groups.

I was very pleased the other day when I saw a nearly foot-long Stick Insect on a railing outside my local pharmacy and was able to identify it to the species without a guide! (Queensland Titan).

 

[Jane Turner]

Irony? I thought it was a good idea! Chalk me up for a reject on the Musselburgh Royal Tern, ALL Elegant Terns in B&I and that Blue-backed Gull on the tip. And for all the muppets, I've seen two out of the three. B

cheers, a

Your wish is my command.....and a commanding lead! I thought you had, but thought it a bit sad to cyber stalk you to check

I'm not crediting myself with Madeiran Petrel since I'm not dissing the record(s) just explaining how its going to be ever so hard to get one accepted.

 

[Jane Turner]

Is that like a metal detector Jane....?



http://username-beast.blogspot.com/

Fery funny

 

[Lee Evans]

James Hanlon

Just read your posting. Certificates are issued for Bird Species 400, 450, 500, 550, 575 and 600, as well as for those of outstanding merit (such as in the recent identification of the White-winged Scoter) so yes if you ever make 600, you will certainly be eligible for a certificate (I guess it will take you over 40 years though - minimum)

 

[marklhawkes]

Lee, could you really not tell that James was messing??

 

[rosbifs]

Jane
You forgot Rock Bunting...
Do I get a star now?

 

[halftwo]

By contrast Dave Gibbs - and apologies to Dave if he doesn't want his name bandied about - was last listed at 9506 - of which he's seen 485 species of bird in the UK, and it is he who has discovered three new species of fly, in the UK. (That is - new to the world - found in the UK)

Agromyza audcenti Gibbs, 2004
Chyromya britannica Gibbs, 2007
Leiomyza birkheadi Gibbs, 2006

Wow, Dave still the cutting edge of avant-guard after all these years! Top man.

Went to Uni with Dave, he was well into insects back then (early 80s), then pioneered Wallacea & Irian Jaya. Always several steps ahead.
I remember being in the pub one day on a wet autumn evening when news came in (no pagers/t'internet then of course) of a bird none of us had heard of - a Varied thrush.

Unlike the rest of us - with the thought of a 300 mile hitch-hike overnight in the rain to see a strangely-coloured American thrush - who promptly settled down to another pint - Dave donned his scarf, downed his drink and set off immediately.

The rest, as they say, is history! And those left behind....d'oh!!

So, if you're still in touch, Matt, say 'HI' from me.

 

[Jane Turner]

Jane
You forgot Rock Bunting...
Do I get a star now?

er It was in my list (scoring for both Alan and Lee)

Much as in self-found lists - there should be bonus points for going against the general view, not hiding behind the views of others (I think is duff as opposed I heard that it is duff) and also something for the grace with which the message is delivered.

 

[Jane Turner]

Lee, could you really not tell that James was messing??

What do you think?

 

[Johnny Allan]

No less accurate than the UK400 list, perhaps Lee'll give you a job

Surprised you haven't heard of the UK4,000 club for Pan-UK listing, of which I am self-appointed judge, jury and executioner?

Anyway, I've decided to publish my list that I keep of UK Naturalists' totals...

1st: Jonty Denton (10,246)
2nd: Dave Gibbs (9,506)
3rd: Mark Telfer (6,127)
4th: Malcolm Storey (5,284)
5th: Graeme Lyons (3,376)
6th: Martin Harvey (3,370)
7th: Sarah Patton (2,760)
8th: Steve Gale (2,713)
9th: Rob Woodall (2,328)
10th: Josh Jenkins-Shaw (1,184)
joint 11th: Johnny Allen and Lee Evans (1,183 combined)