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ID please - Konya, Turkey (3 Viewers)
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foresttwitcher
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Rutting deer?
I actually got hold on the video to the audio track. Maybe you can visually identify it as some kind of owl species or bird. It would be very helpful. I uploaded the video here on imgur: link:
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The sound recording is the noise that came from this animal. So the sound says no owl and the video says perhaps? Kind of difficult to get to a coherent conclusion here, I guess?
Have you tried checking with
Just an idea, but have you considered Vvvw calls of Long-eared Owl?
(Ideally, try not to come too close in case it's an owl indeed.)
EDIT: Though I understand the video is old anyway, so it doesn't matter.
Undiscovered Owls – web book - The Sound Approach
soundapproach.co.uk
(Ideally, try not to come too close in case it's an owl indeed.)
EDIT: Though I understand the video is old anyway, so it doesn't matter.
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Andy Adcock
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As usual, I have no audio, when I click on the file it shows that the speaker is off but where, mine are on?
Yeah, sorry guys. Here the video with sound. Hope this will help. Link.
Here buddy: Link.
Also, bill-snapping at 0:27 (don't be surprised at the loud sound immediately afterwards)?
EDIT: This recording only includes the last two hoots.
I think it could've potentially been a female on nest, which one shouldn't approach, but--then--you didn't know that (what the ID could--possibly--have been), so it's OK.
EDIT: This recording only includes the last two hoots.
I think it could've potentially been a female on nest, which one shouldn't approach, but--then--you didn't know that (what the ID could--possibly--have been), so it's OK.
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It sounds very up close, so it may potentially have slightly different qualities than from afar. Also, it may potentially be quite close to the nest, which might elicit different sounds. But I'm not able to confidently say that's it (or not). The location also slightly bothers me: it's in the rocks, and LEOs should nest in, e.g., abandoned corvid nests, so usually in trees.
Have you listened to CD-62 from the article (not a perfect match but similar): Long-eared Owl - The Sound Approach
While it may remain unresolved, what other animal (small mammal?, bird?) do you think it could be?
EDIT: also, this from 3:35 onwards till 4:15, but, yeah, it's not a perfect match
macaulaylibrary.org
Probably, I wouldn't tick it in the end.
Have you listened to CD-62 from the article (not a perfect match but similar): Long-eared Owl - The Sound Approach
While it may remain unresolved, what other animal (small mammal?, bird?) do you think it could be?
EDIT: also, this from 3:35 onwards till 4:15, but, yeah, it's not a perfect match
ML145839211 - Long-eared Owl - Macaulay Library
Macaulay Library ML145839211; © Andrew Spencer; Buryatia, Russia
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Wow, this case seems somehow unsolvable, I guess. Maybe the visual analysis will help?
In the video clip (without sound) I have added a slow motion close up of the appearance of the animal, beginning at 0:11: LINK.
Perhaps hereby a technical approach would also help with the identification:
I mean, since you can only ever see just a small part of the animal's complete appearance because the view through the slit, wouldn't be the solution to combine the frames of the shifting visible parts into one image to complete the appearance of the animal as good as possible? Just an idea, maybe there is a software for this.
In the video clip (without sound) I have added a slow motion close up of the appearance of the animal, beginning at 0:11: LINK.
Perhaps hereby a technical approach would also help with the identification:
I mean, since you can only ever see just a small part of the animal's complete appearance because the view through the slit, wouldn't be the solution to combine the frames of the shifting visible parts into one image to complete the appearance of the animal as good as possible? Just an idea, maybe there is a software for this.
Hey guys, I have sequenced the close-up part [00:00:26:24 - 00:00:37:05] of the following video I uploaded before to support the visual identification of the bird/animal:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - source.mp4
So the problem here is that our view of the bird/animal is very partial because we are only seeing it moving behind a slit.
For this, I have simply sequenced the different areas of the bird's/animal's appearance (presumably the head front) as frames from the video to get a more complete picture of it. For this, I didn't actually order the chosen frames as a chronological sequence of the video, but more as a spatial arrangement of the bird's/animal's head parts.
So when we are (presumably) looking at a moving head front of a bird/animal through a slit, then obviously
picture a) shows the more right head front,
picture b) shows the more middle head front, and
picture c) shows the more left head front:
So much for the boring scheme part; now my...
...Observations (in marked sequence):
Picture a)
Marker #1 [00:00:36:33]:
something can be observed that kind of resembles a mammals ear; shadow or video artifact not ruled out.
Loop video:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - ear.mp4
Picture b)
Marker #2 [00:00:28:53]:
a movement of the right eyelid and – this following – the forehead tissue can be observed; the eye size reduces for a moment.
Loop video:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - eye.mp4
Picture c)
Marker #3 [00:00:32:32]:
could these be the nostrils of an owl's or other bird's beak? Is the nostril spacing common for any bird species?
Loop video:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - nostrils.mp4
For further analysis, here I have also a stabilized version of the whole close-up video part:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - stabilized.mp4
Maybe this will help a little with the identification. That's all I can offer.
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - source.mp4
So the problem here is that our view of the bird/animal is very partial because we are only seeing it moving behind a slit.
For this, I have simply sequenced the different areas of the bird's/animal's appearance (presumably the head front) as frames from the video to get a more complete picture of it. For this, I didn't actually order the chosen frames as a chronological sequence of the video, but more as a spatial arrangement of the bird's/animal's head parts.
So when we are (presumably) looking at a moving head front of a bird/animal through a slit, then obviously
picture a) shows the more right head front,
picture b) shows the more middle head front, and
picture c) shows the more left head front:
So much for the boring scheme part; now my...
...Observations (in marked sequence):
Picture a)
Marker #1 [00:00:36:33]:
something can be observed that kind of resembles a mammals ear; shadow or video artifact not ruled out.
Loop video:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - ear.mp4
Picture b)
Marker #2 [00:00:28:53]:
a movement of the right eyelid and – this following – the forehead tissue can be observed; the eye size reduces for a moment.
Loop video:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - eye.mp4
Picture c)
Marker #3 [00:00:32:32]:
could these be the nostrils of an owl's or other bird's beak? Is the nostril spacing common for any bird species?
Loop video:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - nostrils.mp4
For further analysis, here I have also a stabilized version of the whole close-up video part:
View attachment ID - Konya, Turkey - stabilized.mp4
Maybe this will help a little with the identification. That's all I can offer.
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