I'd be willing to bet that 90% of those who "visit" this site do not use alphas at all.
And I bet you would be right!
Lee
I'd be willing to bet that 90% of those who "visit" this site do not use alphas at all.
Ed,
Thank you. Yes indeed, I will never be able to see my Leica's in the light of old. But note the rewards: I see birds in the flesh, accompanied by the complete soundtrack of Finian's Rainbow. Now, how about you, Swarovskian?
Renze
Renze,
My Swaro's are situation dependent. Most recently The Mountain King adds excitement to every view — even when I'm just looking at a wall.
So glad you pointed this out.
Ed
Exceptional line rider, a tour de force. Took him a month of his spare time to create, he says. Convincing.
Renze
I'm sure you noticed his careful attention to prism shapes and image curvatures. Swarovski's are fabulous!
Ed
Sometimes I think it's better to buy a decent priced midrange object in order to be continually surprised by what it can do for you, rather than some alpha object that surprises you with its faults ...
Thanks for all the input, majority is against the brass knob as a cause for veiling glare. So I grabbed my torch and Noctivid again.
Please fasten your seatbelts and we will do a dive into the stargate. Ok, it´s only Noctivid flare. Psychedelic enough.
Please could someone tell me what is going on in the Noctivid? Henry Link? Optical designer from Leica, :eek!:
Zeiss, Swarovski :smoke:
I marked all bins on the left objective at 12o´clock with a white dot. I used a dimmed and diffused LED torch because with strong light the direct, colorful lens ghosts will make it hard to see anything inside. It´s a bit tedious because the macro lens is bulky etc., but the LED is just a bit tilted from axis so this is light which easily enters the glass under normal conditions.
No. 1 is Nikon EDG, you see a reflection of the roof at 6 o clock. And nothing else, no matter where I put the torch. That's a pretty unique point of the EDG probably. Applause.
No. 2 is Leica UVHD+ 8x32, a favorite but definitely not as flare suppressed as the Nikon. This is most of the reflection I could provoke.
No.3 is the Nocti 8x42, the LED just hitting the roof.
No. 4 with the torch tilting a bit differently, this is the flare thing. Seems to be in a focus plane close to the field stop.
No. 5 another pic of the flare thing, different light angle.
A reflection this bright should scatter back into the image path and cause veiling glare. I´d be very surprised if it did not.
Although I did heavy contrast correction in the images, so flare brightness should not be quantified by the images, the Nocti flare is much brighter than the UV flare, and comes from a much bigger area.
Seen from the ocular it is veiling glare.
Again, it is always "directly compared to what" - I don't know about SF, Swarovision etc. as I don't have direct comparison at hand.
But compared to the 10 years older Nikon EDG the Nocti disappoints me.
Because the Ultravid has a similar, although much weaker reflection, I think a manufacturing defect in my Nocti sample is improbable. This looks like a design flaw.
Thank you , Henry and Holger, for your much valued input.
My amateur interpretation of recent posts is that it's easy to draw inaccurate conclusions from looking down the wrong end of a binocular - unless you really know what your looking at and the design principles of that binocular, and, that given the almost universal praise the Noctivid receives for it's handling of glare, the Leica designers and technicians knew what they were doing!
Thank you , Henry and Holger, for your much valued input.
My amateur interpretation of recent posts is that it's easy to draw inaccurate conclusions from looking down the wrong end of a binocular - unless you really know what your looking at and the design principles of that binocular, and, that given the almost universal praise the Noctivid receives for it's handling of glare, the Leica designers and technicians knew what they were doing!
I would think there is not a glass that will not show glare at some point or another. If the Noctivid is not OK with you, sell it and try something else.
I quite like the Noctivid, and the EDG, and enjoy the views through both of them - but like anything else in life it is subjective.
Perhaps the new NL 8X42 will be the right one for you.
Andy W.
For some reason this comes across a little like a personal vendetta with Leica. Something just doesn't feel right here...
A good observation.
Thanks for the final assessment Tobias. Always interesting to read other peoples opinions. You seem to have found many reasons to justify the above for yourself!.......the Noctivid images are not to my taste........