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Kurdish/Persian/Rufous-tailed Wheatear? (1 Viewer)

colonelboris

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Could anyone please explain what's what regarding the Kurdish/Persian/Rufous-tailed Wheatear please? I've come accross a lot of different answers, especially regarding scientific names and my head hurts...
Cheers!

Tony
 
Ta!
But which names? I've seen all three names in different pairings and the scientific names seem to be a bit fluid, too...

Is this right...?

Formerly:
Rufous-tailed Wheatear Oenanthe xanthoprymna

now:
Kurdish Wheatear Oenanthe xanthoprymna
Persian Wheatear Oenanthe chrysopygia

Additionally, if you were looking at European ranges, would both be included?
 
According to Avibase, the split forms can be named:

Oenanthe xanthoprymna: Red-tailed Wheatear (Clements), Red-rumped Wheatear (Howard & Moore), Chestnut-rumped Wheatear (Handbook of Birds of the World), Kurdistan Wheatear (Gill & Wright), and Rufous-tailed Wheatear (Sibley & Monroe).

Oenanthe chrysopygia: Red-tailed Wheatear (Howard & Moore and Gill & Wright), Rusty-tailed Wheatear (HBW). Notice that the first of these is the same name given to the other half by Clements, but also that Avibase may have made an error here; there is no Clements name for one half of the split, so the name used may be for the pre-split species, maybe Clements have not recognized this split.

The confusion will only be larger when you then consider regional field guides, some of who make again other names. I will try to look into this further when I get home, especially the Opus name, but I don't have my printed Clements in hand at the moment.

Niels
 
Ta!
But which names? I've seen all three names in different pairings and the scientific names seem to be a bit fluid, too...

The scientific names are not fluid, except for the split/lump issue.
- O. xanthoprymna xanthoprymna (lumped) = O. xanthoprymna (split) is the form with a black throat and white tail sides, that breeds from S Turkey to SW Iran.
- O. xanthoprymna chrysopygia (lumped) = O. chrysopygia (split) is the nondescript grey-brown form with rufous tail sides, that breeds from Transcaucasia to Afghanistan.

I've seen the lumped species called "Red-tailed" (mainly oldish literature), "Rufous-tailed" (more recent), and "Persian" (e.g., Collins Bird Guide).

Once split, the confusion starts...
"Red-tailed", "Rusty-tailed" or "Afghan" would probably always apply to chrysopygia.
"Kurdish", "Kurdistan" or "Chestnut-rumped" would be xanthoprymna; "Red-rumped" is also sometimes used for this form, but obviously offers confusion with O. moesta (then renamed "Buff-rumped").
I've seen at least "Persian" and "Rufous-tailed" used for both. (Both breed in Persia, so "Persian" is confusing. Where I've seen "Rufous-tailed" used for xanthoprymna, it was opposed to "Red-tailed" for chrysopygia - e.g., in some OSME checklists.)

Regarding Europe: this depends a bit where you place the limit between Europe and Asia. Chrysopygia breeds in Transcaucasia (i.a. Armenia), but I don't think it reaches any area N of the Great Caucasus (it's not impossible that I could be proved wrong on this, though); xanthoprymna is accidental on Cyprus.
 
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Thanks!
I saw the IOC list (Gill and Wright, 2006) has Kurdistan Wheatear O. xanthoprymna and Red-tailed Wheatear O. chrysopygia, while the French call Traquet kurde (O. xanthoprymna) the Red-tailed Wheatear while the Traquet de Perse (O. chrysopygia) is labelled 'Persian Wheatear', but I can't find where they get their English names from.
I guess on this one, I'll go with Gill and Wright...
One less taxonomic headache gone!
Cheers!

Tony
 
Clements has to date not accepted this split, so the name "Red-tailed Wheatear" mentioned for Clements in post 5 actually should have been for the combined species.

Niels
 
I took the liberty of copying a couple of sentences from Laurent's post into the opus entry (http://www.birdforum.net/opus/Rufous-tailed_Wheatear). If anyone knows, I would like to know what type the upper image in the entry is (Original in the gallery at http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37610). Am I right in thinking female xanthoprymna? and same question for the image in http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=123467, which I am pretty sure has to be chrysopygia based on location, but male or female?

Thanks
Niels
 
If anyone knows, I would like to know what type the upper image in the entry is (Original in the gallery at http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=37610). Am I right in thinking female xanthoprymna?

I'm not completely certain how the more difficult xanthoprymna individuals (i.e., pale females) can be ID'd with certainty, but I would pass this as a chrysopygia without any problem.
This bird seems to have deep rufous tail sides, which is normal for chrysopygia, but some xanthoprymna (possibly younger birds) can apparently show this as well. A typical female xanthoprymna would be quite different from this bird - compare to these:
http://picasaweb.google.com/Jawetus/EasternTurkey2007#5103664749021252290
http://greekbirding.blogspot.com/2008/04/rarities-in-cyprus.html
Location also suggests chrysopygia, which is a common winter visitor in the UAE; xanthoprymna is not fully impossible there, but is rare (e.g. http://www.osme.org/sand261/uae.html).

I've no idea how a chrysopygia can be sexed with any certainty. (If anyone knows, I'd be glad to learn.)

Cheers, Laurent -
 
Atefeh Chamani , Mohammad Kaboli , Mansour Aliabadian , Mahamoud Karami , The effects of contact zone on phylogenetic characters in Persian Wheatear , 2011 2nd International Conference on Environmental Science and Technology , 2011-02-26
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