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Old Thursday 30th July 2020, 17:42   #1
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IOC combines forces w/ NACC, SACC, Cornell, and more to produce "global checklist"

From: https://www.internationalornithology...ian-checklists

Working Group Avian Checklists

A major IOU initiative

Building on the IOC World Bird List begun by Frank Gill and David Donsker, the International Ornithologists’ Union (IOU) has formed the Working Group on Avian Checklists (WGAC) with a broadened purpose and function. Its primary purpose will be to produce and maintain on the IOU website an open-access global checklist of birds in the mould of the great Peters-Mayr checklist of the 20th century and intended to serve as the benchmark reference for all taxa of the class Aves. Eminent representatives of the international community of professional avian systematists will compile and maintain it.

It will classify the Aves from class to subspecies based on up-to-date, corroborative information on the phylogeny of birds and the differentiation of species and subspecies. It will also provide authors and references to the original description of all taxa of all ranks covered by the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature (ICZN). Type localities for species and subspecies, and type taxa for all ranks from subgenus to superfamily will be specified. Sources for taxonomic and nomenclatural decisions also will be referenced. Although English names for species will be drawn primarily from the IOC World Bird List, modifications to better align with preferences of checklist committees of individual continents, such as the North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC) will also be incorporated. Geographic distributions will synchronize with those in the Birds of the World project. Ultimately, type data and deposition for species-group names and synonyms are planned for inclusion as well.

For this enormous undertaking, the WGAC will be split into two teams overseen by its Chair. One, the taxonomic team, will be responsible for all classificatory decisions and for the geographical distribution of species-group taxa. To ensure the highest standards and authority, this team will comprise leading avian systematists specializing in different avifaunal regions around the globe. The other team will comprise experienced bibliographers who will provide authors, dates, references to original publications of names, type data and nomenclatural explanations.

Heading the project are Les Christidis, WGAC Chair and former co-editor of the passerine volume of the Howard & Moore Complete Checklist of the Birds of the World edition 4; Frank Rheindt, WGAC deputy chair and ICZN Commissioner; and David Donsker from the IOC World Bird List, who will coordinate the bibliographic entry program. Members of checklist committees of individual continents are also included, such as the NACC and SACC.

Under the direction of Marshall Iliff, eBird project leader, the technical infrastructure, database, and linkages to external digital resources will be coordinated at the Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology, one of the foremost interfaces between ornithological science and the broader ornithological community in the world. The database will be built in collaboration with Denis Lepage, creator of Avibase, and firmly rooted in the adoption of taxonomic concepts. Taxonomic concepts, an organizational structure for taxonomies that already has been applied by Avibase across all major checklists, will not only allow us to better understand differences among existing lists, but also will be used to track future taxon changes over time and ensure that external data resources are accurately linked. Avibase already acts as a repository for much of the information WGAC hopes to maintain and will continue to play a key role in the maintenance of the new global list.

The final checklist will produce more than just a hierarchical list of species and recommended names. It will provide, through its detailed fields and connections to external references, the basic information for all ornithology – professional ornithologists, citizen scientists, conservationists and students – to draw on the full record of diversity of earth’s birdlife.

Composition of WGAC

Executive Committee

Les Christidis (Chair)
Frank Rheindt (Deputy Chair)
David Donsker
Pam Rasmussen
Richard Schodde
Tom Schulenberg
Marshall Iliff
Denis Lepage

Taxonomic Committee

Frank Rheindt (Chair)
Pam Rasmussen
Richard Schodde
Tom Schulenberg
Terry Chesser
J. V. Remsen, Jr
Per Alström

Bibliographic Committee

David Donsker (Chair)
Frank Rheindt
Richard Schodde
Alan Peterson
Frederik Brammer

Technical Team

Marshall Iliff (Chair)
Denis Lepage
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At first glance it seems to be a formalization of what was already underway - IOC deferring to NACC and SACC for regional decisions, and eBird/Clements coming into alignment with IOC for old-world taxonomy.

For me, the greatest takeaway here is the unification of eBird and IOC, effectively - this should, hopefully, make eBird far more useful for European, African, Asian, and Australian/Oceanic birders who've not been fond of Clement's outdated taxonomy.

What will be interesting to see is if anything becomes of the HBW taxonomy that was sort of aborted via its "integration" into Cornell, and if there are changes to NACC, SACC, or to IOC/Cornell's taxonomic decision making in those two or other regions.
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I like the idea to include type locality for each taxon, species, and subspecies.

I working on my own checklist of Birds (in french language of course) in which I am adding all subspecies and later I will work on the geographic distribution of each taxon, + OD, generic synonyms, type species of each genus etc..So, if it's possible, I would base on their work for some missing data

Maybe I digress but I'm not very a fan of a unified taxonomy because it looks to me like a grip on our freedom to conceive our own taxonomy. Especially since more committees adopt a taxonomy that differs from other committees (my famous eg. : AOU, tif, ex HBW and myself recognise Hodgsonius and Cyanecula as distinct genera whereas IOC, BOW or Avibase doesn't , prefering the stupid enlarged Luscinia).

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I like the idea to include type locality for each taxon, species, and subspecies.
I working on my own checklist of Birds (in french language of course) in which I am adding all subspecies and later I will work on the geographic distribution of each taxon, + OD, generic synonyms, type species of each genus etc..So, if it's possible, I would base on their work for some missing data
Maybe I digress but I'm not very a fan of a unified taxonomy because it looks to me like a grip on our freedom to conceive our own taxonomy. Especially since more committees adopt a taxonomy that differs from other committees (my famous eg. : AOU, tif, ex HBW and myself recognise Hodgsonius and Cyanecula as distinct genera whereas IOC, BOW or Avibase doesn't , prefering the stupid enlarged Luscinia).
Bonsoir, Monsieur Nomenclatoriste,
You wrote: "If it pays off, I kill myself." Please, do not think of such a thing; the Working Group of Avian Checklist might not even take note of such a terrible event, but you would rob them from a counterweight which has enough value in itself and you would do considerable damage to our BirdForum, where in my opinion the variety of ideas and approach is an essential aspect for its staying alive and flourishing.
You express your own strong ideas about taxonomy and nomenclature (the thought of "clattering with names" right now came up with your screen name (:^), but you are quite entitled to maintain and ventilate them, honni soit qui mal y pense. Vive la liberté personelle (si elle n'est pas détruisante)!
I am no "influencer", just offering some encouragement . . .
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Thank you Jan for your comments about LeN. I am sure we all share your thoughts. I do like the gif. I actually think the IOU will not be sorry after your gone. And we need more independent workers on the vine and I will miss you. But you know use your Free Will(y). I always say do not take a permanent solution to a temporary problem. This too shall pass. Im old and I remember the lumping rampage by the AOU in 1973 and in 2020 it has almost completely been reversed by hard working scientists applying the scientific method to new DNA data. I see some positives. The AOS NACC has not dealt with subspecies since 1957! Fixed! Mr. Jobling now will not be so hemmed in by his overlord's idosyncreties (sp) By asking for change to SACC/NACC and IOC you can effect Clements/e-Bird?
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At first glance it seems to be a formalization of what was already underway - IOC deferring to NACC and SACC for regional decisions, and eBird/Clements coming into alignment with IOC for old-world taxonomy.

For me, the greatest takeaway here is the unification of eBird and IOC, effectively - this should, hopefully, make eBird far more useful for European, African, Asian, and Australian/Oceanic birders who've not been fond of Clement's outdated taxonomy.

What will be interesting to see is if anything becomes of the HBW taxonomy that was sort of aborted via its "integration" into Cornell, and if there are changes to NACC, SACC, or to IOC/Cornell's taxonomic decision making in those two or other regions.
Not just taxonomy but nomenclature too, even some recent splits have different names under IOC and HBW.
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It will classify the Aves from class to subspecies based on up-to-date, corroborative information on the phylogeny of birds and the differentiation of species and subspecies. It will also provide authors and references to the original description of all taxa of all ranks covered by the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature (ICZN). Type localities for species and subspecies, and type taxa for all ranks from subgenus to superfamily will be specified. Sources for taxonomic and nomenclatural decisions also will be referenced.
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"And we need more independent workers on the vine and I will miss you."

Hello Mark,
Thank you for your reaction and the support it contains for all readers. I am pretty old myself, anyway old enough to keep sighing at every change in the ornithological constellation, but I do not consider myself a taxonomist, not even an amateur in that discipline. So I suppose you can continue reading messages posted by me about intrigueing bird names and maybe sometimes things that are just funny or nice reading stuff.
To LeNomenclatoriste: voyez le message particulier et explicatif que je vais écrire comme réaction maintenant.
Stay well, keep up the spirit and encouragement we all need and are able to afford! Alles sal reg kom.
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If it pays off, I kill myself
But look, it was two years ago (at the 2018 IOC congress) that they agreed to do this project. Now they have staff for the project. Admittedly it's an all-star cast but it's still going to take another couple of years before they have a preliminary product, I think. So you have plenty of time.
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It was a joke, of course. This project looks awesome (see my gif)

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hhhmm...this seems to support rumors I heard that ebird may be divorcing itself from NACC/SACC.
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hhhmm...this seems to support rumors I heard that ebird may be divorcing itself from NACC/SACC.
But all three of those organizations are represented there.
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Important notice on relationship between the IOC World Bird List and the IOU Global Checklist (2 August 2020): The IOU Working Group on Avian Checklists (see https://www.internationalornithology...ian-checklists, WGAC) has chosen to adopt the IOC World Bird List as the template for the building of its consolidated Global Checklist. The consolidated IOU Global Checklist will be an independent benchmark work with broader taxonomic coverage compiled by the IOU teams, which include the IOC World Bird List co-editors. Meanwhile, the IOC World Bird List will continue to be actively updated on a semiannual basis, including changes recommended by the IOU Global Checklist. It is expected that the IOU Global Checklist will eventually supersede the IOC World Bird List. Stay tuned!
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Here's a piece from Birdguides.

https://www.birdguides.com/news/majo...omy-announced/

How do we interpret this...

Although English names for species will be drawn primarily from the IOC World Bird List, modifications to better align with preferences of checklist committees of individual continents, such as the North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC) will also be incorporated.

Currently, there are some species which retain the English rather than American name, despite appearing on both continents e.g Grey Plover. Does this mean that all, such names will be replaced with the North American preference?
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https://www.birdguides.com/news/majo...omy-announced/

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Although English names for species will be drawn primarily from the IOC World Bird List, modifications to better align with preferences of checklist committees of individual continents, such as the North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC) will also be incorporated.

Currently, there are some species which retain the English rather than American name, despite appearing on both continents e.g Grey Plover. Does this mean that all, such names will be replaced with the North American preference?
When I was in the RAF in northern Scotland, one local informal name was 'Black-oxtered Plover'...
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Currently, there are some species which retain the English rather than American name, despite appearing on both continents e.g Grey Plover. Does this mean that all, such names will be replaced with the North American preference?
I wouldn't bet on that. It's more likely that there will be meetings in what we used to call "smoke-filled back rooms" to hammer out the details.
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I wouldn't bet on that. It's more likely that there will be meetings in what we used to call "smoke-filled back rooms" to hammer out the details.
In that case, I would bet on it - those 'smoke-filled rooms' are exactly where the public are not listened to and the biases of the privileged people in the meeting are brought to fruition
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In that case, I would bet on it - those 'smoke-filled rooms' are exactly where the public are not listened to and the biases of the privileged people in the meeting are brought to fruition
Which public? as an American I think Grey/Gray Plover is a horribly boring name. And don't get me started on Diver :P
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Which public? as an American I think Grey/Gray Plover is a horribly boring name. And don't get me started on Diver :P
What, as in Great Northern Diver vs Common Loon? Oh please....

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But all three of those organizations are represented there.
IOC though has several distinct differences in species recognized versus NACC. For instance, the Fox Sparrows and Yellow-rumped Warblers are split in IOC, but still lumped as single species each by NACC.

So a merger of all of these checklists is GOING to result in some authorities being followed while others are not. Here's hoping they don't lump the Yellow-rumped Warbler, since I think NACC was pretty wrong on that decision.
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Here's a piece from Birdguides.

https://www.birdguides.com/news/majo...omy-announced/

How do we interpret this...

Although English names for species will be drawn primarily from the IOC World Bird List, modifications to better align with preferences of checklist committees of individual continents, such as the North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC) will also be incorporated.

Currently, there are some species which retain the English rather than American name, despite appearing on both continents e.g Grey Plover. Does this mean that all, such names will be replaced with the North American preference?
More importantly, will the "North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC)" members be drawn in sensible proportion from, respectively, the whole of North America and South America: or is this another Trumpian US hegemony grab? If the latter, then nothing they say can possibly be considered valid, which would of course suit "the Old World" - which under normal rules of priority should win every time.....

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More importantly, will the "North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC)" members be drawn in sensible proportion from, respectively, the whole of North America and South America: or is this another Trumpian US hegemony grab? If the latter, then nothing they say can possibly be considered valid, which would of course suit "the Old World" - which under normal rules of priority should win every time.....

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I am not even sure what you are trying to imply here. SACC and NACC has been functioning committees a lot longer than the current president of the US, and why he would have any influence on them is beyond me.

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Here's a piece from Birdguides.

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Although English names for species will be drawn primarily from the IOC World Bird List, modifications to better align with preferences of checklist committees of individual continents, such as the North American Checklist Committee (NACC) and South American Checklist Committee (SACC) will also be incorporated.

Currently, there are some species which retain the English rather than American name, despite appearing on both continents e.g Grey Plover. Does this mean that all, such names will be replaced with the North American preference?
I read this to mainly influence those species where the major part of the population occurs in areas covered by those regional checklists. The UK is out of influence because they chose to disband their regional checklist.

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I am not even sure what you are trying to imply here. SACC and NACC has been functioning committees a lot longer than the current president of the US, and why he would have any influence on them is beyond me.

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