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When the rock band Oasis split up, Noel Gallagher and Liam Gallagher started touring separately. The guitarist and drummer (Gem Archer and Chris Sharrock) kept playing and touring with both of the resulting two bands. Following the patronym-related announcements, something similar seems to be going on with American Ornithological Society taxonomic committees, at least for now:
AOS committee member lists as below, and (now non-AOS) SACC committee lists members also set out below (as currently stated).
Remsen has been removed as NACC member and SACC chair on the AOS website but all the other previous members are still listed. Another listed NACC member (Winker) claims in his own webposts to have resigned and Normand David has passed away, but they are still both listed. SACC has its own website, listing all the same committee members as are stated to be on AOS SACC committee (but also those removed at AOS), but now apparently operating under a governance outside the AOS. AOS website still links to the same old SACC website. The legacy SACC website still lists Alvaro Jaramillo and Daniel Cadena, who are co-authors of the patronyms report which led to this schism, as SACC participants. They were both recently criticised heavily on Remsen listserv posts e.g. here.
Does anyone know what is going on? Are all the former SACC members now on two committees, just like Oasis' drummer and guitarist? Will the new committee have a new website?
Idea of this thread is to track committee changes and the future of taxonomic lists - but not to discuss the merits of patronyms please.
Members: Shawn M. Billerman, Kevin J. Burns, Jon L. Dunn, Blanca E. Hernández-Baños, Rosa Jiménez, Oscar Johnson, Andrew W. Kratter, Nicholas A. Mason, Pamela C. Rasmussen, Kevin Winker
Early Career Systematics Group: Max Kirsch, David Vander Pluym, Nicholas Vinciguerra
Technical Advisors: Normand David, Daniel Gibson, Michel Gosselin, Dan Haig, Marshall J. Iliff, Michael Patten, Thomas S. Schulenberg
Members: Juan Ignacio Areta (Argentina), Elisa Bonaccorso (Ecuador), Santiago Claramunt (Uruguay and Canada), Alvaro Jaramillo (USA and Chile), Daniel F. Lane (USA), Jose Fernando Pacheco (Brazil), Mark B. Robbins (USA), F. Gary Stiles (Colombia), Kevin J. Zimmer (USA)
Technical Advisors: C. Daniel Cadena, David Donsker, Jorge Pérez-Emán, Gary R. Graves , Steven L. Hilty, Mark Pearman, Vitor de Q. Piacentini, Thomas. S. Schulenberg, Bret M. Whitney, Juan Freile, Jhonathan Miranda
SACC:
Current SACC membership = Juan Ignacio Areta (Associate Chair), Instituto de Bio y Geociencias del Noroeste Argentino, Salta; Elisa Bonaccorso, Universidad San Francisco de Quito; Santiago Claramunt, Royal Ontario Museum and University of Toronto; Glaucia Del-Rio, Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology, and Museu de Zoologia da Universidade de São Paulo; Alvaro Jaramillo, San Francisco Bay Bird Observatory; Daniel F. Lane, Museum of Natural Science, Louisiana State University;
J. V. Remsen, Jr. (Acting Chair), Museum of Natural Science, Louisiana State University; Mark B. Robbins, Museum of Natural History, University of Kansas; F. Gary Stiles, Universidad Nacional de Colombia, Bogotá; Kevin J. Zimmer, Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County.
Technical Advisors for Vagrant and Hypothetical Species: Juan Freile, Comité Ecuatoriano de Registros Ornitológicos (CERO); Jhonathan Miranda, Comité de Registros de las Aves de Venezuela, Unión Venezolana de Ornitólogos.
Technical Advisor on Nomenclature: Vitor de Q. Piacentini, Working Group on Avian Nomenclature, International Ornithologists’ Union
Technical Advisor for Hybrids and Dubious Taxa: Gary R. Graves, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution;
Technical Advisors: David B. Donsker; Steven L. Hilty, Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, Inc., & Museum of Natural History, University of Kansas; José Fernando Pacheco, Comitê Brasileiro de Registros Ornitológicos; Mark Pearman, Mardel Pelagics and Birdquest; Jorge Pérez-Emán, Universidad Central de Venezuela, Caracas; Pamela Rasmussen, Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology; Thomas S. Schulenberg, Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology; Douglas F. Stotz, Field Museum of Natural History; Bret M. Whitney, Field Guides & Museum of Natural Science, Louisiana State University;
Data-base Advisor: Steve Olesen
Editorial Advisors: Paul Clapham; Alan Grenon
Past Committee Members: C. Daniel Cadena, Universidad de Los Andes, Bogotá; Manuel Nores, Centro de Zoología Aplicada, Córdoba; Richard O. Prum, Yale University; José Maria Cardoso da Silva, Conservation International - Brasil
AOS committee member lists as below, and (now non-AOS) SACC committee lists members also set out below (as currently stated).
Remsen has been removed as NACC member and SACC chair on the AOS website but all the other previous members are still listed. Another listed NACC member (Winker) claims in his own webposts to have resigned and Normand David has passed away, but they are still both listed. SACC has its own website, listing all the same committee members as are stated to be on AOS SACC committee (but also those removed at AOS), but now apparently operating under a governance outside the AOS. AOS website still links to the same old SACC website. The legacy SACC website still lists Alvaro Jaramillo and Daniel Cadena, who are co-authors of the patronyms report which led to this schism, as SACC participants. They were both recently criticised heavily on Remsen listserv posts e.g. here.
Does anyone know what is going on? Are all the former SACC members now on two committees, just like Oasis' drummer and guitarist? Will the new committee have a new website?
Idea of this thread is to track committee changes and the future of taxonomic lists - but not to discuss the merits of patronyms please.
Committees - American Ornithological Society (AOS)
The AOS has many standing committees composed of dedicated volunteers who contribute their time and expertise to the benefit of the Society and ornithology.
americanornithology.org
Classification and Nomenclature (NACC)
Co-Chairs: R. Terry Chesser and Carla CiceroMembers: Shawn M. Billerman, Kevin J. Burns, Jon L. Dunn, Blanca E. Hernández-Baños, Rosa Jiménez, Oscar Johnson, Andrew W. Kratter, Nicholas A. Mason, Pamela C. Rasmussen, Kevin Winker
Early Career Systematics Group: Max Kirsch, David Vander Pluym, Nicholas Vinciguerra
Technical Advisors: Normand David, Daniel Gibson, Michel Gosselin, Dan Haig, Marshall J. Iliff, Michael Patten, Thomas S. Schulenberg
Classification and Nomenclature (SACC)
Acting Chair: Currently openMembers: Juan Ignacio Areta (Argentina), Elisa Bonaccorso (Ecuador), Santiago Claramunt (Uruguay and Canada), Alvaro Jaramillo (USA and Chile), Daniel F. Lane (USA), Jose Fernando Pacheco (Brazil), Mark B. Robbins (USA), F. Gary Stiles (Colombia), Kevin J. Zimmer (USA)
Technical Advisors: C. Daniel Cadena, David Donsker, Jorge Pérez-Emán, Gary R. Graves , Steven L. Hilty, Mark Pearman, Vitor de Q. Piacentini, Thomas. S. Schulenberg, Bret M. Whitney, Juan Freile, Jhonathan Miranda
SACC:
South American Classification Committee
www.museum.lsu.edu
Current SACC membership = Juan Ignacio Areta (Associate Chair), Instituto de Bio y Geociencias del Noroeste Argentino, Salta; Elisa Bonaccorso, Universidad San Francisco de Quito; Santiago Claramunt, Royal Ontario Museum and University of Toronto; Glaucia Del-Rio, Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology, and Museu de Zoologia da Universidade de São Paulo; Alvaro Jaramillo, San Francisco Bay Bird Observatory; Daniel F. Lane, Museum of Natural Science, Louisiana State University;
J. V. Remsen, Jr. (Acting Chair), Museum of Natural Science, Louisiana State University; Mark B. Robbins, Museum of Natural History, University of Kansas; F. Gary Stiles, Universidad Nacional de Colombia, Bogotá; Kevin J. Zimmer, Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County.
Technical Advisors for Vagrant and Hypothetical Species: Juan Freile, Comité Ecuatoriano de Registros Ornitológicos (CERO); Jhonathan Miranda, Comité de Registros de las Aves de Venezuela, Unión Venezolana de Ornitólogos.
Technical Advisor on Nomenclature: Vitor de Q. Piacentini, Working Group on Avian Nomenclature, International Ornithologists’ Union
Technical Advisor for Hybrids and Dubious Taxa: Gary R. Graves, National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution;
Technical Advisors: David B. Donsker; Steven L. Hilty, Victor Emanuel Nature Tours, Inc., & Museum of Natural History, University of Kansas; José Fernando Pacheco, Comitê Brasileiro de Registros Ornitológicos; Mark Pearman, Mardel Pelagics and Birdquest; Jorge Pérez-Emán, Universidad Central de Venezuela, Caracas; Pamela Rasmussen, Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology; Thomas S. Schulenberg, Cornell Laboratory of Ornithology; Douglas F. Stotz, Field Museum of Natural History; Bret M. Whitney, Field Guides & Museum of Natural Science, Louisiana State University;
Data-base Advisor: Steve Olesen
Editorial Advisors: Paul Clapham; Alan Grenon
Past Committee Members: C. Daniel Cadena, Universidad de Los Andes, Bogotá; Manuel Nores, Centro de Zoología Aplicada, Córdoba; Richard O. Prum, Yale University; José Maria Cardoso da Silva, Conservation International - Brasil
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