English name of Germain's Swiftlet (1 Viewer)

jmorlan

Hmmm. That's funny

Opus Editor

• Jan 29, 2013

• #1

It appears that a typo has crept into the English name of Germain's Swiftlet somewhere and I'm curious which is correct. Is it Germain's or German's?

See...

http://avibase.bsc-eoc.org/species.jsp?lang=EN&avibaseid=842DAA4311A02D69

Any authoritative sources would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

 

mb1848

Well-known member

• Jan 29, 2013

• #2

The bird was named after M. Rodolphe Germain a correspondent of the museum.
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/98694#page/249/mode/1up .

Why the latinization of Germain becomes germani I am not sure. The other bird named after him is Polyplectron germaini.

The original spelling is surely a misspelling?
A. Milne-Edward named something germanii latinizing Germain to Germanius and then used the genative germanii. Zoologische Verhandelingen 1997.

 

Last edited: Jan 30, 2013

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8669

Well-known member

• Jan 30, 2013

• #3

I asked Normand David about this germani and here's his answer:

At this moment, the original germani seems correct to me under Arts. 26 and 31.1.1. The Latin word Germanus [a German; un Germain] is protected under art. 26, and the genitive germani is correct under 31.1.1, when "of Germain" is latinized to germani.


Normand


Theo

 

mb1848

Well-known member

• Jan 30, 2013

• #4

Thank you so much, Theo. Please thank Mr. David also. As to Joe Morlan's original question I have seen Germain's Swiftlet and German's and Oustelet's. German is wrong.

 

jmorlan

Hmmm. That's funny

Opus Editor

• Mar 3, 2013

• #5

Thanks all. I've been in contact with the Clements checklist editors and have been advised they will be using Germain's Swiftlet in the next edition.

 

Björn Bergenholtz

(former alias "Calalp")

• Jan 5, 2014

• #6

Germain in germani ...

More on the same subject on thread:
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=2901746#post2901746

 

Nutcracker

Stop Brexit!

• Jan 6, 2014

• #7

Looks like the wikipedia article also needs updating to "Germain's".

 

jmorlan

Hmmm. That's funny

Opus Editor

• Jan 6, 2014

• #8

FWIW v6.8 of Clement's checklist changes the English spelling noting

"Although the scientific name for this species is spelled "germani", it was named in honor of Rodolophe Germain (Oustalet 1876). Consequently, we follow regional authorities (Inskipp et al. 1996, Robson 2000), and revise the English name for the species from "German's Swiftlet" to "Germain's Swiftlet"."

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davercox

Dave Cox

Supporter

• Jan 6, 2014

• #9

Nutcracker said:

Looks like the wikipedia article also needs updating to "Germain's".

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Done (I hope !).
edit: If you see anything wrong with what I've done, please feel free to fix it (or let me know if you don't want to do it yourself); end edit

 

Last edited: Jan 6, 2014