Who uses a Zeiss 85 and can show High-Quality-Pics? (1 Viewer)

TobiasK · Mar 21, 2007

Hi,
i know, strange question .... who would rank his own pics as "high-quality"...
but let's give it a try

I am about to buy the Zeiss 85, but i am still not 100% convinced
I want to take pics of this quality:
http://www.naturfotografie-digital.de/voegel/alle-voegel-fotos.php

or at least i want the right equipment to do so....if i will ever "be able" to is an other question

Would be nice if some Zeiss-Users could show their best pics

Thank you all
Greetings from Bavaria

Bye
Tobias

ThoLa · Mar 22, 2007

TobiasK said:
Hi,
i know, strange question .... who would rank his own pics as "high-quality"...
but let's give it a try

I am about to buy the Zeiss 85, but i am still not 100% convinced
I want to take pics of this quality:
http://www.naturfotografie-digital.de/voegel/alle-voegel-fotos.php

or at least i want the right equipment to do so....if i will ever "be able" to is an other question

Would be nice if some Zeiss-Users could show their best pics

Thank you all
Greetings from Bavaria

Bye
Tobias

See here:

http://www.zbirding.info/Digi/Digi.html

scampo · Mar 22, 2007

TobiasK said:
I am about to buy the Zeiss 85, but i am still not 100% convinced
... Would be nice if some Zeiss-Users could show their best pics

Thank you all
Greetings from Bavaria

Bye
Tobias

Be convinced! A staff member of BF and this forum's "resident digiscoper", Andy Bright, has used the Zeiss for some time and produces shots of supreme quality: http://www.digiscopingukbirds.homestead.com/

iporali · Mar 22, 2007

TobiasK said:
I am about to buy the Zeiss 85, but i am still not 100% convinced
I want to take pics of this quality:
http://www.naturfotografie-digital.de/voegel/alle-voegel-fotos.php

How about Gerd Rossen's own pics and his comments on the 65FL: http://www.naturfotografie-digital....s-diascope-65-t-fl/zeiss-diascope-65-t-fl.php ? IMO the only downside of the 85FL in digiscoping is the lack of fixed 20x wideangle compared to the Leica, Swaro & Kowa. If the eye-relief is sufficient for your camera, there is no better digiscoping zoom than the Zeiss's.

Ilkka

ThoLa · Mar 22, 2007

iporali said:
IMO the only downside of the 85FL in digiscoping is the lack of fixed 20x wideangle compared to the Leica, Swaro & Kowa.
Ilkka

There is an excellent fixed wide-angle 23x.

Tom

iporali · Mar 22, 2007

ThoLa said:
There is an excellent fixed wide-angle 23x.

Tom

True, but it is 30x on the 85FL producing an exit pupil of 2.8mm (same as 65FL/23x).

Kowa 82mm/21x => 4.0mm
Swaro 80mm/20x => 4.0mm
Leica 77mm/21x => 3.6mm

It means that the 20x is roughly one stop faster than the 30x, meaning less shake, more DOF & sharper images.

BTW, The "secret" of those super sharp images is that they are taken at very close distances, which is why our typical digiscoped pics taken at "normal" viewing distances often look so bland.

Best regards,

Ilkka

jcwings · Mar 22, 2007

iporali said:
BTW, The "secret" of those super sharp images is that they are taken at very close distances, which is why our typical digiscoped pics taken at "normal" viewing distances often look so bland.

Best regards,

Ilkka

This is mostly true. I would add that the highest quality digiscoped shots with the Zeiss 85 T are done with a good camera appropriately suited to the scope (not all cameras will match-up well) and some post-photo tweaking with a photo software program. It's not hard to take good digiscoped photos with the Zeiss. I own one myself and my camera is a basic point-and-shoot.

My photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/almiyi/

Look at this guy's photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/faisca/

ThoLa · Mar 22, 2007

iporali said:
BTW, The "secret" of those super sharp images is that they are taken at very close distances, which is why our typical digiscoped pics taken at "normal" viewing distances often look so bland.

If you want top quality focus, use the dedicated photo adapter Zeiss offers and hook a SLR camera (any type will do, digital OR analog!).
Best and uncompromising solution for high quality.
Pondering eyepieces will come to and end that way, too.

Besides: the "secret" of all good wildlife photography is simply to sit for hours on end and shoots hundreds of pictures ... of which only two or three will be shown around. Sad, but simple truth. It's the method professionals employ.

T

mrpjdavis · Mar 22, 2007

ThoLa said:
Besides: the "secret" of all good wildlife photography is simply to sit for hours on end and shoots hundreds of pictures ... of which only two or three will be shown around. Sad, but simple truth. It's the method professionals employ.
T

I wouldn't agree that the "shotgun" approach is really the secret, but some advice given to me when I started photography was "If you want people to think you're a half decent photographer, make sure they never see 90% of your output"

Pete

Actually it's closer to 99% in my case!

Kevin Wade · Mar 22, 2007

This Little Owl taken with a Diascope 85 and coolpix 4500, at about 15-20m.

http://www.birdforum.net/pp_gallery/showphoto.php/photo/28073/sort/1/cat/500/page/1

john-henry · Mar 22, 2007

Here's one of my favourites, good light, obliging bird and 30-40ft away, makes all the difference to birds 30 mtrs away.

Regards

John

http://www.birdforum.net/pp_gallery/showphoto.php/photo/107583/sort/1/size/medium/cat/500/page/7

Jaff · Mar 22, 2007

Take a look in the gallery of Robert S.
He's got some great shots and uses the Zeiss adapter as well as the 85.

Jaff

Paul Hackett · Mar 23, 2007

The Zeiss scopes are a very good scope for digiscoping, it takes good pics, i wish they would make a 20X WA lens

Picture of Woodchat Shrike taken with Zeiss 85, 30X WA Lens, Contax U4R

Rgds

Paul

scampo · Mar 23, 2007

Amazing sharpness, Paul - even the cobweb is sharp! What a beautiful bird.

jourdaj · Mar 24, 2007

scampo said:
Amazing sharpness, Paul - even the cobweb is sharp! What a beautiful bird.

Paul,

That's a tough one to beat! Well done. Here's one of my favorites from last year.

http://www.pbase.com/jourdaj/image/60691074

Jerry

scampo · Mar 24, 2007

Suddenly the dunlin becomes a very pretty bird! Super shots.

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