Last week, I observed one barnacle goose associating with graylag geese and three ruddy shelducks at a Nature Preserve on the Bodensee Lake in extreme southern Germany near the Swiss border. Are these species considered countable to one's lists? I figure both could potentially occur naturally in the area, especially barnacle goose, but they're probably both escapees.
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Countability of Barnacle Goose and Ruddy Shelduck in Germany (1 Viewer)
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Nutcracker
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Down there, the Barnie's likely to be an escape. Plenty of feral, and truly wild wintering, on the North Sea coast, but not in the far south.
Ruddy Shelduck - dubious, but potentially tickable as an established feral population.
Ruddy Shelduck - dubious, but potentially tickable as an established feral population.
Sangahyando
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Barnacle Geese seen during the summer are most likely escapees (even up here, AFAIK). As Nutcracker said, they winter here in large numbers, but then they're concentrated in northern Germany, e.g. along the lower Elbe.
Barnacle do occasionally reach the Paderborn area, but as said, only in very cold winters as migrants. The Ruddy Shelducks breed in Kreis Paderborn and there are some at the Steinhorster Becken.
avidbirder
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Members of the renowned club 300 in Germany do tick and count Ruddy shelduck. It is considered to be naturalised, although you don't always know if a particular bird is an escapee.
However, I would rather not tick the Barnie in the south of Germany.
However, I would rather not tick the Barnie in the south of Germany.
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