JustinJansen
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You are more on the mark then Arjan ;-)
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2016 - World Yearlist Record Attempt (3 Viewers)
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You are more on the mark then Arjan ;-)
Paul Chapman
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Well in truth it is 8 because of Canada Goose but he only has 7 recorded as 'escaped' - Egyptian Goose, Chilean Flamingo, Ring-necked Pheasant, Crested Myna, California Quail, African Collared Dove & Yellowhammer. (He has seen a genuine House Crow.) B
Hopefully he'll update before he jumps on a plane tomorrow night. Be interesting to see his final outcome in Australia.
All the best
Richard Klim
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eBird, 30 Mar 2016: Using accurate and specific eBird locations.
François Doyen
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Can you put the exact tree, reedbed, field for every sightings like in Observado/Waarneming or just a list of sightings made at one single place? Because at local level it might be more important to know where exactly in a marsh have you heard a bluethroat than knowing you've seen 2 woodpigeon flyover.
Here's some map of my local area done with Waarnemingen.be (different colour are for different years) :
Singing Quails : http://i.imgur.com/PA9dSMc.jpg
Hunting Hen Harrier : http://i.imgur.com/l8nTWOr.jpg sadly this map show they completely abandoned the area they used the most since a grassland disappeared and they also became much more scarce in the wole area :-C
Golden plover on the ground : http://i.imgur.com/c6IoTHh.jpg Clearly showing the 2 favourite "plovers field" not a surprise it's on these fields that I also found dotterels and even a flock of 3 ringed plover, 1 dunlin and 1 sanderling.
Is it possible to do with ebird?
Here's some map of my local area done with Waarnemingen.be (different colour are for different years) :
Singing Quails : http://i.imgur.com/PA9dSMc.jpg
Hunting Hen Harrier : http://i.imgur.com/l8nTWOr.jpg sadly this map show they completely abandoned the area they used the most since a grassland disappeared and they also became much more scarce in the wole area :-C
Golden plover on the ground : http://i.imgur.com/c6IoTHh.jpg Clearly showing the 2 favourite "plovers field" not a surprise it's on these fields that I also found dotterels and even a flock of 3 ringed plover, 1 dunlin and 1 sanderling.
Is it possible to do with ebird?
Nutcracker
Stop Brexit!
This rather hints to me that UK gamekeepers are using Waarnemingen.be data to locate, and then go and destroy, Hen Harriers wherever they can. Their hatred for this species should not be underestimated at all; they certainly travel widely to shoot out known winter harrier roosts, with the aim of complete eradication of the species.
It does raise the question: what data should be added, for species that are likely to be the target of significant wildlife crime?
Thijs Fijen
Active member
My remark wasn't supposed to 'unleash the beasts', but great that we now know more of both databases. And great that more precise locations is given more emphasis now in eBird. For Observation.org we should put more emphasis on complete lists (and protection).
On a more on-topic note: Arjan now on 2044 when leaving Australia http://world.observation.org/arjan.php
Andy Adcock
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I had rather naively, never even thought of this!
I just assumed that witheld sites and sketchy details were just to prevent hoards of birders / twitchers.
Andy
François Doyen
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Well you can hide your sightings either just the exact localisation or hide them completely from normal users but the precise record is still there for conservation. Some species are automatically hidden (like Fox in Belgium).
Hunters know about the birds too. And if it's an area you visit several time a week or even everyday showing you're there regularly and monitor the area might even be a good thing. I hide common buzzard when they're near possible breeding site but even then I'm pretty sure the local hunters know about them.
Hunters know about the birds too. And if it's an area you visit several time a week or even everyday showing you're there regularly and monitor the area might even be a good thing. I hide common buzzard when they're near possible breeding site but even then I'm pretty sure the local hunters know about them.
Vincent van der Spek
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+1 (2045). Spotted Nightjar was accidentally entered as an escape.
DanielDoer
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So we should hope that the day (part of the day exactly) tomorrow in the Netherlands should bring some more birds - and that Arjan won't waste time at the Rubythroat (that is really strange to use "waste" and "rubythroat" together in NL, I agree with you Vincent!!). I'm looking forward to it (and to new stats by Paul as well)...
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JustinJansen
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Arjan will twitch it..... but also trying to get another cast of supporting species here. Vincent is puzzling this last part together ;-)
Nutcracker
Stop Brexit!
Also relevant to a lot of rarer parrots and birds like Bali Myna (targeted by cagebird collectors), Saker & Lanner Falcons (falconers), and hornbills (bill hunters)
Paul Chapman
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6 additional 'unique' species:-
Noisy Scrub-bird Atrichornis clamosus
Western Bristlebird Dasyornis longirostris
Spotted Nightjar Eurostopodus argus
Purple-gaped Honeyeater Lichenostomus cratitius
Rock Parrot Neophema petrophila
Western Whipbird Psophodes nigrogularis
All the best
Noisy Scrub-bird Atrichornis clamosus
Western Bristlebird Dasyornis longirostris
Spotted Nightjar Eurostopodus argus
Purple-gaped Honeyeater Lichenostomus cratitius
Rock Parrot Neophema petrophila
Western Whipbird Psophodes nigrogularis
All the best
Paul Chapman
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Recounted 'unique' species as 377 against 396 recorded by Noah in the countries now off the agenda (including Australia) and so Arjan is 19 behind but from a much shorter period.
I get a 2,036 adjusted total against 1,874 as at 31st March by Noah so Arjan is 162 ahead on that basis.
All the best
I get a 2,036 adjusted total against 1,874 as at 31st March by Noah so Arjan is 162 ahead on that basis.
All the best
Paul Chapman
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When I looked the other day without really knowing about Dutch avifauna, I puzzled about the following possibles?
Lesser Redpoll Acanthis cabaret
Common Redpoll Acanthis flammea
Boreal Owl Aegolius funereus
Dartford Warbler Sylvia undata
Redwing Turdus iliacus
Ring Ouzel Turdus torquatus
Barn Owl Tyto alba
Short-eared Owl Asio flammeus
Little Owl Athene noctua
Greater Scaup Aythya marila
Great Bittern Botaurus stellaris
Eurasian Eagle-Owl Bubo bubo
Short-toed Treecreeper Certhia brachydactyla
Eurasian Treecreeper Certhia familiaris
Cetti's Warbler Cettia cetti
Common Raven Corvus corax
Rook Corvus frugilegus
Common House-Martin Delichon urbicum
Middle Spotted Woodpecker Dendrocopos medius
Lesser Spotted Woodpecker Dendrocopos minor
Black Woodpecker Dryocopus martius
Corn Bunting Emberiza calandra
Northern Wheatear Oenanthe oenanthe
Bearded Reedling Panurus biarmicus
Hawfinch Coccothraustes coccothraustes
Cirl Bunting Emberiza cirlus
Brambling Fringilla montifringilla
Common Merganser Mergus merganser
Red-necked Grebe Podiceps grisegena
Eurasian Bullfinch Pyrrhula pyrrhula
Water Rail Rallus aquaticus
Firecrest Regulus ignicapilla
Eurasian Penduline-Tit Remiz pendulinus
Black-legged Kittiwake Rissa tridactyla
Eurasian Nuthatch Sitta europaea
Tawny Owl Strix aluco
Eurasian Blackcap Sylvia atricapilla
Yellow-legged Gull Larus michahellis
Crested Tit Lophophanes cristatus
Red Crossbill Loxia curvirostra
European Stonechat Saxicola rubicola
Northern Fulmar Fulmarus glacialis
All the best
Andy Adcock
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Paul Chapman
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Andy Adcock
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Just for you Paul, unless he gets a migrant, Ring Ouzel may be tricky as if I read this right it's not a breeder?
Same with Redwing.
Andy
http://www.dutchbirding.nl/content/page/files/webprog20150505-99.pdf
Same with Redwing.
Andy
http://www.dutchbirding.nl/content/page/files/webprog20150505-99.pdf
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François Doyen
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Dartford Warbler & Cirl Bunting are vagrant too.
Fulmar is also more or less impossible
Don't know what the situation is with Pigmy Owl in the Netherlands (no new from Belgium either)
Very few Ring Ouzel and House Martin yet. (even blackcap might not be easy. I'm still waiting for my first but it's easier on the coast)
A number of these species aren't easy / restricted to the east of the country.
Fulmar is also more or less impossible
Don't know what the situation is with Pigmy Owl in the Netherlands (no new from Belgium either)
Very few Ring Ouzel and House Martin yet. (even blackcap might not be easy. I'm still waiting for my first but it's easier on the coast)
A number of these species aren't easy / restricted to the east of the country.
Xenospiza
Distracted
Forget about Pygmy Owl – a trip to nearby Germany would be necessary (Grey-headed Woodpecker, Nutcracker, Tengmalm's Owl, Rock Bunting all possible, but I don't have a clue where they would be "easy").
Mealy Redpoll may be very difficult (very few redpolls about this year) and Kittiwake impossible (only easy with strong northwesterly winds, but winds will be southeasterly).
Crossbill may require some planning this year as they are only common in Drente in the northeast.
Corn Bunting is very localised, with a few birds in the far southeast (easy access to Middle Spotted Woodpecker, Eurasian Treecreeper and probably Eagle Owl: these three birds are also readily found near Winterswijk which may be less of a drive).
All the ones listed (and not shown to be impossible yet) should be quite easy (still quite some Redwings although there has been a mass exodus). He could add Lesser Scaup as well, but it may not be on the route.
Mealy Redpoll may be very difficult (very few redpolls about this year) and Kittiwake impossible (only easy with strong northwesterly winds, but winds will be southeasterly).
Crossbill may require some planning this year as they are only common in Drente in the northeast.
Corn Bunting is very localised, with a few birds in the far southeast (easy access to Middle Spotted Woodpecker, Eurasian Treecreeper and probably Eagle Owl: these three birds are also readily found near Winterswijk which may be less of a drive).
All the ones listed (and not shown to be impossible yet) should be quite easy (still quite some Redwings although there has been a mass exodus). He could add Lesser Scaup as well, but it may not be on the route.
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