An orchid and a broomrape from Provence (1 Viewer)

[Steve Babbs]

I'm fairly sure that the orchid is Late Spider, but I am aware that Ophrys orchids in Europe are rather harder than the UK so confirmation would be appreciated. I haven't really got much of a clue with the broomrape. Any help appreciated,

 

[Butty]

Could you give the dates, please? Thanks.
1. iNat's only (credible) suggestion is ivy broomrape - though ivy broomrape as I know it is always knee-deep in ivy. Any ivy adjacent? or other obvious candidate host-plant? - all I can identify here is legumes, grass and a thistle.
2. Late spider orchid looks a good bet - or maybe woodcock orchid. I can't see that anything else is in the frame.

 

[Steve Babbs]

2 June for both. I'm afraid I cannot remember if there was any ivy around. I'm afraid I didn't think to photograph the leaves for the orchid. Woodcock orchid was the other possibility that I though of.

 

[Xenospiza]

Ophrys is a headache genus with an abundance of badly defined new species. I would also say O. scolopax (as it looks quite like the synonymised O. corbariensis to me: Ophrys corbariensis). Late Spider Orchid has a broad labellum which I don't see here.

 

[Xenospiza]

The Orobanche could also be picridis or even minor. I find them horrible from photos...