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Hi Roman,
Can you let me know which "minor" corrections you are referring too please.
Thanks

Sure Mal92,
but at first I would like to know which species you has or wish to have on your list.
In my opinion there is not much sense when there are bird which are seldom seen (rarities) listed.
 
I agree with Roman's point. I had a look at the Swiss list and there are all species listed ever seen in Switzerland. This includes all vagrants and some birds which have not been seen since more than 100 years. (There is no living birder in Switzerland who has ever seen a Scopoli's Shearwater;)).
As there is no indication on the list how rare a species is, I don't see much sense in it.

André
 
Thanks Stonechat1 & wintibird for your comments. Its always good to get some feedback.

The purpose of the lists are as a basic tick list. Trying to include too much information makes the lists look to complicated, reduces the space and involves a massive amount of work. (I run the website on my own, in my spare time.)
If someone needs more info or references then the majority of birders have a field-guide to hand. (If you print the lists the same size as the field-guide then it can be tucked inside the book.)

As to having all the species listed. This was a decision I made at the start because I didn't want to have partial lists. trying to decide which species to include or omit would be impossible, therefore having full lists was the best choice. This seems to be the right option for most people.

Don't forget, the lists are excel files so please feel free to do with them as you wish.

Hope this also answers your question Stonechat1.

Thanks
 
Thanks Stonechat1 & wintibird for your comments. Its always good to get some feedback.

The purpose of the lists are as a basic tick list. Trying to include too much information makes the lists look to complicated, reduces the space and involves a massive amount of work. (I run the website on my own, in my spare time.)
If someone needs more info or references then the majority of birders have a field-guide to hand. (If you print the lists the same size as the field-guide then it can be tucked inside the book.)

As to having all the species listed. This was a decision I made at the start because I didn't want to have partial lists. trying to decide which species to include or omit would be impossible, therefore having full lists was the best choice. This seems to be the right option for most people.

Don't forget, the lists are excel files so please feel free to do with them as you wish.

Hope this also answers your question Stonechat1.

Thanks

Mal, I think you have a point in that country lists normally include all species ever seen there. But I also agree with Wintibird in that archaic records may not be that appropriate (say, more than 30 years old) - this would then provide a realistic and consistent decision criteria when choosing to include the species or not. Omitting a yellow-billed loon from the austrian list would be silly - even though it is an extreme vagrant - because, as you mentioned there is no consistent way to decide what species to include and what to exclude making the exclusion criteria very wishy washy. Of course, as stated by the others above, the best way would be to include a measure of abundance (with say 5 levels) that somehow characterises each species. This would help visitors and locals very roughly evaluate the chances of picking up the species.

Creating an abundance scale for each species in each country would be the task of lots of many more Mal's than you currently have access to ;) so maybe if we want an abundance scale then we need to find a way to create this as a collective effort of Austrian birders/ornithologists :t:
maybe here on birdforum, but probably better on www.bird.at

happy birding,
Dale
 
Thanks Stonechat1 & wintibird for your comments. Its always good to get some feedback.
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Don't forget, the lists are excel files so please feel free to do with them as you wish.
Hope this also answers your question Stonechat1.
Thanks

Thanks for your offer Mal. I´m a birder since more than 25 years and I know which species I can see from your list. I don´t use your list, just wanted help you. And I don´t think that it is too much work to change it. You need only one column.

For other´s which prefer a more accuratly checklist here it is: http://www.birdlife-afk.at/
Just click on Downloads and than on the file "Checklist of Birds of Austria".

Good birding,
Roman
 
Hi Dale

Thanks for the comments.
I'll keep the idea of an abundance scale in mind for when I eventually reach the point of having all the checklists uptodate. Hopefully not to much longer!
As you say it would take a lot of "Mals" at the moment, but it's a good idea for the future.
Thanks again and let me know if you have any further suggestions.

Regards
 
Who decite the status of the birds on your list?
I´ve never seen an indroduced Reeve´s Pheasant, Indian Peafowl or Wild Turkey in Austria!
But Rose - ringed Parakeet which are well established, especially in some parks in Vienna, you are listing as escapes??? And aditionaly I`m missing a few species of parrots which are recorded as "escapes" from the Avifaunistic Rarity Comission.

o:D
 
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I'll track down my sources and will let you know where the info came from. Meanwhile if you give me a list of what you think is missing I will add them to the list.

Thanks
 
[...] Meanwhile if you give me a list of what you think is missing I will add them to the list.
Thanks

Calidris melanotus -1996
Anas capensis - 1998
Marmaronetta angustirostris - 1998
Anas rubripes - 1999


Probably escapes, but it makes no difference for you:
Bucephala islandica - 2006
Mergus cucullatus - 2001 - 2003

Platycercus eximus
Cyanoramphus unicolor
Melopsittacus undulatus
Nymphicus hollandicus
Agapornis roseicollis
Agapornis personatus
 
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Thanks for the missing species, I'll sort them over the weekend.

The source for the Reeves and Turkey was "BWP concise edition, vol 1". I haven't yet found the Peafowl source.

Regards
 
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