I would have said them same as Valéry except for the juv. bit
tail is a bit short for a harrier, isn't it? maybe honey buzzard.
tail is a bit short for a harrier, isn't it? maybe honey buzzard.
tail is a bit short for a harrier, isn't it? maybe honey buzzard.
Looking that way......:eek!:
Anyway FWIW, thanks to more power of suggestion from Lou, I can see this being a HB now :-O
Well, all is different in shape, look.
Rounded wing tips vs pointed wing
Straight trailing edge vs bulging secondaries
Shortish tail with proportioned width vs long and narrow tail
Carpal joint gently curved vs sharp
...or something else not being a harrier 8-P. true is, gliding raptors can be very similar and such pics extremely deceiving (--> those recent blurred shots from turkey...)
These are rarely afforded such'' pointy'' wings either for the 1st image.
With such a ''short tail'' on the 2nd image...not to mention the less than pointy wings. :eek!:
''Variable'' wing geometry is the name of the game with BOP's, as you must well know Valery. :t:
With such a ''short tail'' on the 2nd image...not to mention the less than pointy wings. :eek!:
Just proves my point, shots of such poor quality are a waste of time
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It proves that, while many Birdforum members are excellent to analyse the plumage, there is a weakness in bird silhouette identification in the forum. In the field, experienced birders would agree on at least harrier sp.