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Not sure how that would work. Are you creating these male only breeders in the lab and then introducing them? Or is there some agent that you introduce into the wild population that turns them into male only breeders?

There was talk a while ago about synthesis of a drug that sterilised grey squirrels. Trials were being talked about.

My point has always been that the problems caused by Grey Squirrels, predation of song birds and forestry impacts, are problems of squirrels in general not just Greys. Red Squirrels were being persecuted for the same crimes for centuries before Greys came to the UK. Red Squirrel as a species is ICUN Least Concern. The funds used to enforce genetic purity in the UK squirrel population are much better spent elsewhere. There is also the fact that a lot the current emphasis on lethal control is driven by the UK shooting industry, who want to extend legal lethal control to all manner of UK wildlife.
And my point has always been that even if some control of Red Squirrels in forestry areas is eventually needed we ought to have Red Squirrels and not Grey.

In addition if shooters are out shooting Grey Squirrels they aren't busy doing inappropriate killing, so it would be good to see them do something useful for once.

Finally if someone doesn't take positive action against Grey Squirrels on the European continent then Red Squirrel will not last as being IUCN "Least Concern".

John
 
Also not sure how that would work - surely if you introduce genetically modified individuals to produce only males, the genetic line would die out very quickly, leaving the existing unmodified individuals to continue breeding.

I think someone has got this all wrong. It's not a genetic modification, it's a male contraceptive that can be introduced via bait to practically the entire grey squirrel population. Don't ask me to explain exactly how they reach the entire grey population - there's plenty of information available if anyone wants to look for it.
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When most people hear contraceptive they think of human contraception, pills and condoms, things that need to be used regularly. This is not that, it is irreversible infertility. Exactly what you need if you want eradication, but talk of contraception paints a different picture in the public imagination.
 
When most people hear contraceptive they think of human contraception, pills and condoms, things that need to be used regularly. This is not that, it is irreversible infertility. Exactly what you need if you want eradication, but talk of contraception paints a different picture in the public imagination.

True, but we're not talking about human contraception - the subject is quite clearly about grey squirrels (and the means of controlling them) - and the conversation is not in the realm of 'the public imagination', but among a small group of interested parties on a nature forum.

I'm sure anyone following the conversation understands that contraception for grey squirrels would not involve issuing them (the squirrels, not BF members) with condoms or contraceptive pills. ;)

Plus, the definition of contraception includes all methods of birth control, including any that cause irreversible infertility.
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An update on the so-called contraceptive treatment, sterilisation, call it what you want, but it seems it's not the silver bullet they were hoping for (so far) and it's turning out to be a bit of a dud.

This demonstrates the gulf that often exists between aspiration and reality. An announcement that efforts are being made to develop such a drug are a world away from the reality of it coming into use, and by the time it eventually becomes available, it might be too late for large areas where red squirrels still hold out. They'll be closing the stable door long after the horse not only has bolted, but is dead and buried. Hoping that there might be a 'kinder' way of wiping out the grey threat that trapping and shooting could be a false hope, no matter how attractive and aesthetically pleasing it might be.

This is an extract from a report only two weeks ago from our local red squirrel group that might shine a beam of realism on the hopes for a sweet solution. In the meantime, red squirrels continue to suffer and die. I'm sure they won't mind me posting it here.

'The UK Squirrel Accord (UKSA) was formed in 2015 at the invitation of His (then) Royal Highness the Prince
of Wales. It is a UK wide partnership of 45 lead in conservation organisations, forestry organisations,
Government agencies and companies.

It’s aims are:
 Secure and expand UK red squirrel, Sciurus vulgaris, populations beyond current thresholds
 Ensure UK woodlands flourish and deliver multiple benefits for future generations of wildlife and people


The UKSA began a five year project in 2019 to develop an immunocontraceptive for grey squirrels.
The idea is that greys will eat bait foods containing the contraceptive, which will be delivered through species specific feeders. This would prevent
female greys becoming pregnant so the grey squirrel population would decline very rapidly. This has been eagerly awaited as a saviour for red squirrels.
UKSA has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds researching and developing the contraceptive drug and its deployment. We have been under the impression that it would be available some time in 2024, when the project timescale ended. Sadly, they have just
announced that their contraceptive doesn’t survive passing through the digestive tract and so isn’t absorbed in to the bloodstream. This is devastating news for us as we desperately try to keep our local reds alive. They are now saying a further 7 to 10 years are needed to make it available. This is devastating for us, but potentially catastrophic for many of the small, red squirrel colonies especially across the North of England and Southern Scotland'.
 
The CRISPR technology IS genetic engineering and not chemical. It takes a certain number and probably multiple releases to achieve control. Pricey, but if you want control you gotta do SOMETHING and everything comes at a cost.
TANSTAAFL. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
 
The CRISPR technology IS genetic engineering and not chemical. It takes a certain number and probably multiple releases to achieve control. Pricey, but if you want control you gotta do SOMETHING and everything comes at a cost.
TANSTAAFL. There ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.
Did you miss this bit?

UKSA has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds researching and developing the contraceptive drug and its deployment.

I think they already realise that.
 

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