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Gull ID - Hamburg, Germany (1 Viewer)


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Can someone reconfirm the gull on the left?

At first I thought it was a European Herring Gull like the one on the right, but then I noticed the grey back / winges been darker. Is this then another gull? or just another subspecies?

Thanks for your comments.


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Hello Fritz,

like you I hope for Lou and others to comment. And before it gets burried, my thoughts to bump it up:
  • despite the darkish upperparts (darker then the Common Gulls) I think its best to start with thinking its a Herring Gull.
  • With the lack of a red gape and eye-ring and ill/pale coloration to the legs its no YLG imo.
  • It has too much white in the primaries for a LBBG
And more? Yes, I see both a greyish and a yellowish tinge to the legs, an indication for some Caspian Gull genes in your bird (although lege are short)???
And although the eye is pale, I cant loose the feeling of small size.
(should there be the grey tongue on the underside of p9 visible, if this is a pure Caspian Gull? Err, yes (?)

Conclusion? I start with suggesting its an adult Herring Gull with possible Caspian Gull genes in it. And as always.. Thanks!

For comparison an ID book Herring Gull (thats how I like them you know) (Wyk auf Föhr, N-Germany, 03.02.2010)
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