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'Industrial' Birding (1 Viewer)

brianfm

Botanical Birder
26th Aug. I was back to Saltholme today, but this time for a meeting. It was tough to sit in a meeting on such a glorious autumn day and nothing was going to stop me from attempting to find that Hooded Merganser today. I have read others views on the origins of this bird and I am quite happy to put it on my UK list and as I have mentioned before I already have it on my life list. Thankfully the conference room looks over the lake and I was able to have good views of the bird even if I did hold up proceedings at one point. Nice view of a Greenshank too although the sun was in the wrong position for any more really worthwhile watching from the conference room and I was urged back to my seat in any event. ;-) Incidentally I was told that Saltholme has had 76,000 customers through the doors since officially opening, 1,500 young people through the classroom (mainly during the summer months and 574 members of the public have been signed up as members of the RSPB. All good stuff.

After the meeting ended most of the afternoon remained so I resisted the urge to look for the Buff-breasted Sandpiper and went off to Seal Sands. There are more important things than adding a bird to your list as far as I’m concerned and I had promised a friend, an inexperienced birder, that I would escort her to Seal Sands. Encouraging someone’s growing interest in birds and keeping a promise is to me far more important to me than seeking the odd rarity, and we had both been to Saltholme last week. Anyway I’m pleased we went off to Seal Sands as it was a wonderful afternoon in the sun. On days like this I find the area quite surreal in that you are birding in such an industrial area that in its own way looks quite wonderful. If I were in the least way artistic, I’d spend some time down there capturing this area in watercolours. It is certainly a lesson to anyone who believes that you need to be in picturesque countryside to enjoy nature (and I think some people do truly believe this). It simply isn’t true and just as well as most of us don’t live in ‘picturesque’ areas. Anyway I took time out from the birding to capture some, not watercolour, but digital images of the industrial area.

The tide was well out and many of the 1.000s of waders were way off across the sands, in the distance. We did have good close up views of dozens of seals, at least the majority being Common Seals. Waders seen were Oystercatcher, Grey Plover, Lapwing, Dunlin, Redshank, Black-tailed Godwit and Curlew. A female Sparrowhawk put in an appearance directly above my head. There were lots of dragonflies about, in the main Common Darter and Small White and Small Tortoiseshell Butterflies.

You will appreciate from the photos why the local Newcastle United supporters affectionately call the Middlesbourgh supporters the ‘smoggies’. Teeside is not renowned for its clear air! As I indicate above though, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder and I do find the place has a strange appeal to me. Those with good memories may remember I posted a photo last year taken from countryside high above Teeside where I was searching for Long Eared Owls, and in the darkness the red glowing sky looked like an approaching lightning storm or sunset. It was ofcourse the lights and flames of industry. As a fellow local birder has already wisely mentioned to me when I placed this report in my blog, this type of area has a very positive aspect to it, in that perhaps it shows us that even in these heavy industrial areas wildlife thrives, and that it perhaps it is also showing how quickly nature will return after we (the human race) are gone, as inevitably we will go eventually. I certainly agree with those sentiments and have mentioned in previous posts just how quickly nature returns to areas on my own patch when left to its own devices.

I hope to be back to Teeside soon.
 

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Hi Brian,

It's surprising what can be done with 'industrial' areas if the will is there. I can remember that one of the best birding places in the North Midlands (may still be) was Drakelow Power Station. I'm sure that the relatively restricted access has something to do with it, and of course it's not so attractive to the casual visitors.

Well done with the Merganser. Is this the one that was at Radipole moved North, or another one?

You did have to mention Small T'shells didn't you!

Bill
 
Hi Bill

Ha, yes these Small Tortoiseshell are everywhere, except down your way!!!

This Hooded Merganser is an interesting one Bill. As one might expect there are questions been asked about escaped birds. The following has been noted about it though. It has no rings, it is keeping its distance from people and not approaching for food and possibly most signifigantly it arrived the morning after the tip of a Hurricane from America had touched the UK, or so I have read.
 
I had to smile at you being urged back to your seat, Brian! I have to agree, much more interesting to be gazing out of the window.

I think there is a certain charm to some industrial places; certainly some of structures you have shown have some fascinating shapes.
 
I've only been to Seal Sands through my old job and never had the opportunity to have a look round even though I thought it had promise. By the time work finished it would have been too dark and my former colleagues would not have put up with it anyway.
The nearest to birding up that way was stopping for sandwiches at Seaton Carew and noticing oystercatchers, sanderling and what may have been turnstones foraging.
I believe things are a bit cleaner up there these days.
 
I had to smile at you being urged back to your seat, Brian! I have to agree, much more interesting to be gazing out of the window.

I think there is a certain charm to some industrial places; certainly some of structures you have shown have some fascinating shapes.

The person who led the meeting did acknowledge that she had done what no teacher would have Kits, and that is, have us facing the windows!;)

Chris...yes, its an excellent birding area. I guess the air is rather clearer now, but on the down side there is probably far less employment. The new Saltholme reserve is only a mile or two down the road from Seal Sands and well worth a visit if you ever get the chance. It will I'm sure mature over the forth coming years and become a top reserve.
 
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Some of the best birding sites in Kent are in the North Kent Marshes and Medway Valley. The area includes two power stations, gravel extraction sites, cement works, docks and now an off-shore wind farm. Not on a par with Tees-side, which I have been through many times (husband a Mackem) but still fairly industrial. Sometimes it seems that the scruffier, the site, the more the birds like it.

Pat
 
An interesting report on your day in industrial Teeside, Brian. Luckily you had time to get out in to the sunshine after your meeting. The seals must have been a joy to see. The only time I have seen seals close was on my visits to Skomer Island. Lovely creatures and such endearing eyes. A pity the tide was not playing ball for you but good wader species you saw in any event.
Having lived close by industry all of my life, I know first hand that 'Picturesque' can still be found in the most built-up and industrial areas. As a child growing up I lived close to (and later employed there) a sprawling car factory in the South of Birmingham (it is now a shadow of it's former self), a stone's throw away from this factory are parks that were and still are a 'good day out' for locals and people not so local. I remember walking to school with my brother in 'smog' that was so thick you could only see a few feet in front of you, yet the parks flourished. Thankfully the air is so much cleaner now!http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Sat...092737583&pagename=BCC/Common/Wrapper/Wrapper
I can remember seeing the trams as a child..goodness that is a frightening thought!:eek!:

Where I now live, just a few miles away is a wonderful nature reserve (in fact one of several) that is very 'picturesque' and part of it is an old claypit that has been reclaimed by nature and has unusual plants and hundreds of Common Spotted and Southern Marsh Orchids. These reserves are very, very close to what was once the heart of the steel industry in the Black Country but with the decline of the steel industry a large shopping centre is now in situ! Nature really is truly amazing how it adapts to changes. It must be nice living in a 'picturesque' area away from the hustle bustle of city life but everywhere has special nature areas if you are willing and want to seek them out.
A good thought provoking thread, Brian.
 
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Something you said Brian, reminded me of the volcanic site now overgrown with rain forest, featured on Lost land of the volcano.
Flora, fauna & wildlife found its way back to mouton rock & ashes and flourished without any intervention.
It provoked so many thoughts it overwhelmed me. All I know for sure is nature will definitely live on and outlive us and evolution is my top wonder of the word.

I enjoyed your report Brian, and the additional info added by Pam.
 
Thanks Pat, Pam and pie.

Pat...yes I think your right about scruffy sites. I sometimes walk through the city parks and Jesmond Dene. I always see the most birds (including my best views of kingfisher in the 'scruffy' neglected areas at the start and end of my walk. Fewer people of course which has already been noted. A mackem eh!!!:eek!:;)

Pam...thanks for your interesting addition. I was shocked when you said you could remember the trams.:eek!::-O I only go as far back as the trolley buses myself, but I shall give you the benefit of the doubt and assume trams ran later in the Midlands.:-O

pie...I'm afraid I have missed Lost Land of The Volcano, but I did see an excert. I'm actually going to a talk on Friday evening given by George McGavin, the guy involved in the series. He was also involved with Lost Land of the Jaguar about Guyana and I've been there so it should be interesting. The talk is the first since the Natural History Society re-started their talks in the new North of England Museum. They have had to change the venue as the initial lecture room only held 100 and I believe there are many more attending. Free drinks before the presentation I believ so I best be there early!;)

On the theme of industrial sites, I'm mindful that Baz often visits his local reserve at Potteric Carr and a very good one it is too. The main north east railway line runs through that, along with other rail lines.
 
Thanks Pat, Pam and pie.

Pam...thanks for your interesting addition. I was shocked when you said you could remember the trams.:eek!::-O I only go as far back as the trolley buses myself, but I shall give you the benefit of the doubt and assume trams ran later in the Midlands.:-O

Oh you are too kind...thanks, Brian!8-P;):-O

After some research I see the trams ceased in 1953, I was * years young then. I do remember seeing a tram, it must have been a celebratory day at Cofton Hackett at the terminal for the trams.

The trams were replaced by buses in 1953 which continued to use the terminus turning circle and its extensive waiting shelter. This was removed in the 1960s. The tram station office building remains, now a restaurant, and a length of track has been preserved.

I believe the tram station office is now an Information Centre.

I have enjoyed doing a bit of research, it has brought back some lovely memories of this area. I feel all nostalgic now!o:D
 
It is amazing how wildlife can collonise even industrial sites, Brian. Specially when there are areas that get left as wasteland.

I saw & took pics, of the Hooded Merganser at Radipole, it did seem very tame, no rings though. The one you've seen Brian, must be a wild one. Shame they can't get together.
 
Thanks Val.

Pam...I have to admit I do seem to remember the tram lines were still in place in Newcastle whan I was a child. I'm now wondering if any still exist. I'll have to check that out as there may be some still in existence on some of the old roads down by the river. I have ridden on a tram on two or three occasions at Beamish Open Air Museaum in Durham where some of the old social and industrial heritage is preserved. I went there during the year it opend, I think 1971. I've been more recently but not for a long time as it costs an arm and a leg these days and I would rather be out watching birds. ;-) I do take an interest in historical matters though and find it adds interst to my walks.
 
Our 'Industrial' sites often go hand in hand with our wildlife. Nature is no snob and neither is she a NIMBY. If an area can be exploited to the benefit of the flora and fauna then old Mother N will find a way.
We are not that far from 'nature' anyway, wasps build, birds build, beavers build, etc etc, we just happen to have broken away from sticks and mud, and I doubt that any building we have made have origins other than from mother earth.
 
Thanks Val.

Pam...I have to admit I do seem to remember the tram lines were still in place in Newcastle whan I was a child. I'm now wondering if any still exist. I'll have to check that out as there may be some still in existence on some of the old roads down by the river. I have ridden on a tram on two or three occasions at Beamish Open Air Museaum in Durham where some of the old social and industrial heritage is preserved. I went there during the year it opend, I think 1971. I've been more recently but not for a long time as it costs an arm and a leg these days and I would rather be out watching birds. ;-) I do take an interest in historical matters though and find it adds interst to my walks.

Ha ha! Owning up to remembering now then!;) Seriously though it is interesting to do a bit of delving on Google. I found a Forum on B-ham Trams! It was like a trip down memory lane with all the photo's and info, great! Try a Newcastle trams search!
Sorry if I have gone off topic!B :)
 
A very interesting report Bonny Lad. There is much in it with which I agree, none moreso than the importance of encouraging and helping inexperienced birders to increase their knowledge thereby, hopefully, building a lifetime's interest in birding and natural history.
Well done that man! Thanks for sharing an enjoyable read.

Baz.
 
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Thanks CM8, Pam and Baz.

Pam...There's no such thing as going of topic in one of my threads!;) I guess I started it anyway with my photos of industry, but I think it good to talk about nature and it's many links. I'm off to google Tyneside Trams but I shall save any reading for tomorrow. I'm reading up at present for a walk I'm leading on Saturday, in the gales and rain by the sounds of it, and would you believe it has taking me to memoriums of dead pitmen. As well as my walk being in a good birding area it has a history of coal mining. One of the memorials is of a pit lad of 13 who is buried in a local graveyard. He had his head crushed by tubs. It simply says 'he should have waited until they were at rest'.:C I shall quote this on the walk.
 
Thanks CM8, Pam and Baz.

Pam...There's no such thing as going of topic in one of my threads!;) I guess I started it anyway with my photos of industry, but I think it good to talk about nature and it's many links. I'm off to google Tyneside Trams but I shall save any reading for tomorrow. I'm reading up at present for a walk I'm leading on Saturday, in the gales and rain by the sounds of it, and would you believe it has taking me to memoriums of dead pitmen. As well as my walk being in a good birding area it has a history of coal mining. One of the memorials is of a pit lad of 13 who is buried in a local graveyard. He had his head crushed by tubs. It simply says 'he should have waited until they were at rest'.:C I shall quote this on the walk.

That is sad about the young lad.:-C Hope you enjoy your walk in sunshine, the weather forecasters do get the forecast wrong occasionally!;)
 
That is sad about the young lad.:-C Hope you enjoy your walk in sunshine, the weather forecasters do get the forecast wrong occasionally!;)

As it turned out it was in the sunshine Pam, after one drencing the sun shone all day. Almost gale force winds though. As we were in the dene we were shelterd from them most of the time. Six Whooper Swans on the pond as the walk ended was the highlight of the day and we made four new members for the Local Group. Folk decided against sitting on the falling tree branches that I had chosen for a lunch stop. |:|| They had earlier fallen in the winds. So we moved a little further along where one lady narowly missed being hit on the noggin by another fall. I reckon I had chosen well in the first place. Never mind we all got out safely.

Lots of Teal and Wigeon on the pond, but little bird life seen in the dene. Not a good day for birding, the winds saw to that, but a very good day all the same.

The industrial thread continues as the dene was used for industry in the past.

Below = Tranquility out of the wind.
 

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Good that the sun shone for you all, Brian! It was very blustery in the West Mids also yesterday! Thank goodness the lady who was no doubt enjoying her lunch and a friendly chat escaped injury when the branch fell! A timely reminder of the dry summer we have had and to take care when stopping for refreshments in wooded areas.. lack of rain, less moisture for the trees and gusty winds being a bit of a danger! A bit like sheltering under a tree in a lightning storm.
A nice highlight with the Whooper Swans and a very nice image of tranquility!
 
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