Latest IOC Diary Updates (3 Viewers)

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

We will likely "close the books" on IOC 14.2 by the end of this week. There are still about 30-40 or so minor to major discrepancies between the draft of the updated Clements/WGAC lists that haven't yet been incorporated into IOC 14.2, but we want to publish IOC 14.2 before the end of August. Most of these will be incorporated into IOC 15.1 which will be published in early January 2025. But between the releases of IOC 14.2 and 15.1 we will, of course, post any of these changes on the website as we finalize them.

Nice. Because I am patiently waiting for updates of the French names by Michel Gosselin so that I can then put my updated list online.

 

[Steve Lister]

Yep. A typo. Should be Duetting. Thanks, all.

Should Giant-Honeyeater be hyphenated or not?

 

[James Jobling]

Steve,
Do I hear the sound of a worm-can being opened?

 

[Xenospiza]

Should Giant-Honeyeater be hyphenated or not?

Only if they eat giant honey.

 

[DDonsker]

Should Giant-Honeyeater be hyphenated or not?

Certainly not by IOC World Bird List spelling rules.
See:

Compound Names – IOC World Bird List

But "Yes" for the rules followed by the Clements List.

I think there may have been threads in years past about the "great hyphen debate". Let's not start again, please.

 

[Steve Lister]

I only mentioned it because two people, Snapdragyn and awiner, wrote it with a hyphen, and then you (DD) replied without correcting it, but I had seen the non-hyphen version in the updates list. I was wondering if it made a difference that there used to be just one Giant Honeyeater but now there are two.

 

[awiner]

I only mentioned it because two people, Snapdragyn and awiner, wrote it with a hyphen, and then you (DD) replied without correcting it, but I had seen the non-hyphen version in the updates list. I was wondering if it made a difference that there used to be just one Giant Honeyeater but now there are two.

Yeah, that was my bad - I'm more used to eBird/Clements hyphenation, and reproduced that here in the IOC thread. It obviously shouldn't be hyphenated in IOC usage.

 

[gusasp]

Aug 14 Begin transition to IOC 14.2

 

[kweetal]

In spreadsheet IOC_Names_File_Plus-14.2_red.xlsx (=14.2),
I notice one inconsistent species/genus year,
i.e., species year < genus year while no parentheses:
Tachyspiza francesiae Smith, A, 1834 while Tachyspiza Kaup, 1844
Probably missing parentheses?

Same for the subspecies:

          Scientific Name         |    auth_ssp    | auth_genus
----------------------------------+----------------+------------
 Tachyspiza badia polyzonoides    | Smith, A, 1838 | Kaup, 1844
 Tachyspiza francesiae francesiae | Smith, A, 1834 | Kaup, 1844
 Tachyspiza virgata affinis       | Hodgson, 1836  | Kaup, 1844
 Tachyspiza virgata besra         | Jerdon, 1839   | Kaup, 1844

And,
seven names have one or more trailing spaces (ceramensis has 2 before)

Below I added a < to make the trailing spaces visible. Very small abberations of course but maybe they can be fixed.

A. i.  ceramensis<
L. l. bohaii <
M. v. flavoviridis <
I. x. radcliffii <
E. e. thompsoni <
P. p. similis   <
A. m. anambae <

There are two instances of 'PARV CLASS', as two words, where a single word PARVCLASS would be more orthodox.

 

[baldviking]

Aug 14 Begin transition to IOC 14.2

Just a minor discrepancy, the 14.2_red spreadsheet posted on the IOC website contains a species count error in Cell G10103. The species count for Family Lybiidae is hard-coded = 42 (the correct count = 44).

It seems all other family species counts in Column G are COUNTIF formulas except for Lybiidae (and the old species count for the family was 42 in the previous version 14.1).

Total species count for version 14.2 = 11,276 (extant 11,113 plus extinct 163).

 

[DDonsker]

In spreadsheet IOC_Names_File_Plus-14.2_red.xlsx (=14.2),
I notice one inconsistent species/genus year,
i.e., species year < genus year while no parentheses:
Tachyspiza francesiae Smith, A, 1834 while Tachyspiza Kaup, 1844
Probably missing parentheses?

Same for the subspecies:

          Scientific Name         |    auth_ssp    | auth_genus
----------------------------------+----------------+------------
 Tachyspiza badia polyzonoides    | Smith, A, 1838 | Kaup, 1844
 Tachyspiza francesiae francesiae | Smith, A, 1834 | Kaup, 1844
 Tachyspiza virgata affinis       | Hodgson, 1836  | Kaup, 1844
 Tachyspiza virgata besra         | Jerdon, 1839   | Kaup, 1844

And,
seven names have one or more trailing spaces (ceramensis has 2 before)

Below I added a < to make the trailing spaces visible. Very small abberations of course but maybe they can be fixed.

A. i.  ceramensis<
L. l. bohaii <
M. v. flavoviridis <
I. x. radcliffii <
E. e. thompsoni <
P. p. similis   <
A. m. anambae <

There are two instances of 'PARV CLASS', as two words, where a single word PARVCLASS would be more orthodox.

Thanks. We will fix these.

 

[DDonsker]

Just a minor discrepancy, the 14.2_red spreadsheet posted on the IOC website contains a species count error in Cell G10103. The species count for Family Lybiidae is hard-coded = 42 (the correct count = 44).

It seems all other family species counts in Column G are COUNTIF formulas except for Lybiidae (and the old species count for the family was 42 in the previous version 14.1).

Total species count for version 14.2 = 11,276 (extant 11,113 plus extinct 163).

Thank you. Will fix.

It always amazes me how these "gremlins" creep in.

 

[Swindon Addick]

From the English Name updates:

Change the initial adjective of ten species from "Chatham" to "Chatham Islands" to align with other major world bird lists. Chatham Albatross remains unaffected.

 

[kweetal]

Thanks. We will fix these.

Reading through the list I noticed (in the "Authority" column):

Turdus grayi suarezi
Avendaño, Curevo, Montoya, Pulgarín-R & Stiles, 2021

I think Curevo should be Cuervo.

As for example, here:
Turdus grayi subsp. suarezi Avendaño & Cuervo & Montoya & Pulgarín-R & Stiles 2021, subsp. nov.

https://zenodo.org/records/5606908

Another typo candidate:
Psophodes nigrogularis oberon
Schodde & Mason, U, 1991

I think Mason, U should be Mason, IJ (but I'm not not sure)

As for example, here:
Australian Faunal Directory

https://biodiversity.org.au/afd/taxa/Psophodes_%28Phodopses%29_nigrogularis_oberon

 

[Mike Earp]

Another typo candidate:
Psophodes nigrogularis oberon
Schodde & Mason, U, 1991

I think Mason, U should be Mason, IJ (but I'm not not sure)

As for example, here:
Australian Faunal Directory

https://biodiversity.org.au/afd/taxa/Psophodes_%28Phodopses%29_nigrogularis_oberon

Why are you not sure. Second author was Ian J. Mason not U Mason.

 

[kweetal]

Why are you not sure. Second author was Ian J. Mason not U Mason.

Well, I am not sure because I don't have or know the original paper (and there are more Masons in the list). But it certainly looks like a typo.

 

[DDonsker]

Reading through the list I noticed (in the "Authority" column):

Turdus grayi suarezi
Avendaño, Curevo, Montoya, Pulgarín-R & Stiles, 2021

I think Curevo should be Cuervo.

As for example, here:
Turdus grayi subsp. suarezi Avendaño & Cuervo & Montoya & Pulgarín-R & Stiles 2021, subsp. nov.

https://zenodo.org/records/5606908

Another typo candidate:
Psophodes nigrogularis oberon
Schodde & Mason, U, 1991

I think Mason, U should be Mason, IJ (but I'm not not sure)

As for example, here:
Australian Faunal Directory

https://biodiversity.org.au/afd/taxa/Psophodes_%28Phodopses%29_nigrogularis_oberon

Thanks. Both are typos for sure. Should be Cuervo and Mason, IJ.

 

[Jacana]

Three more English name updates that I haven't seen mentioned here:

Cape Petrel

Daption capense

Pintado Petrel

Change English name of Daption capense from Cape Petrel to Pintado Petrel (Hockey et al. 2005; SACC 990).

Spotted Nutcracker

Nucifraga caryocatactes

Northern Nutcracker

Change English name of Nucifraga caryocatactes from Spotted Nutcracker to Northern Nutcracker with the split of Southern Nutcracker Nucifraga hemispila.

This was previously changed to Eurasian Nutcracker.

Clarke's Weaver

Ploceus golandi

Kilifi Weaver

Change English name of Ploceus golandi from Clarke's Weaver to Kilifi Weaver, to reflect its region of endemism (Kilifi County, Kenya).

 

[kweetal]

Thanks. We will fix these.

An automated check (char1ofword1 + period + space + char1ofword2 + period + space + word3) threw up another typo:

 correct |    Scientific Name    |              Taxon           
---------+-----------------------+------------------------------------
 f       |     T. n. heinrothi   |   Turdus heinrothi heinrothi

That should be T. h. heinrothi (again, the characters (n, h) look similar; easily overlooked)

 

[opisska]

While I quite enjoy looking into all the reasons why something should be split/lumped around the world, I have, at this point, decided to stop updating my world list (or rather its differenct w.r.t. Clements, or, more exactly, its implementation on iNaturalist) accordingly, as it has become a chore - so I really hope the promised land of "convergence" will eventually be reached. I am only following WP-related changes for competitive purposes, because our Czech competition follows IOC (and I am usually the person who pesters the admin to implement new IOC changes to the interface).