Latest IOC Diary Updates (3 Viewers)

[Mysticete]

Cool, so so far I get Rufescent Flycatcher and Northern Tropical Parula as armchair ticks, not bad But the English names of tyrannids are really quite confusing, because you often have an elaenia, a tyrannulet and a flycatcher with a very similar specific name (a color of a body part) and this way you get a lot of species that sound familiar, but aren't the ones you think about. Or maybe it's just me being not focused enough ...

You mean Northern Tropical Pewee right?

Although these are proposed splits, not accepted splits. No guarantee they are going to be accepted.

 

[opisska]

That's what I am talking about when I say the neotropical names are utterly confusing!! Granted I did not plan to demonstrate this fact in such a humiliating manner, but my brain has simply read Parula instead of Pewee, giving co consideration to the fact - which I surely new - that the Parula isn't even a tyrant. Put "tropical p****" simply activated the wrong circuits in my brain ...

I should stick with WP birds

 

[Björn Bergenholtz]

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Oct 23 Post proposed split of Northern Tropical Pewee from (Southern) Tropical Pewee.

If accepted, and with the more Northern Short-legged (Tropical) Pewee Contopus (cinereus) [brachytarsus Group], I'd suggest that the name Tropical Pewee is kept (just as it is) for Contopus cinereus [i.e. the cinereus Group], and that we use the name Llanos (Tropical) Pewee for Contopus (cinereus) bogotensis (alone), which also would keep it apart from the Tumbes (Tropical) Pewee Contopus (cinereus) punensis, of course.

Or doesn't that work?

Either way, take it as as suggestion (for whatever it's worth). South American Birds, and their taxonomy, are far, far away from my "home turf".

However, I also think that the Olive-sided Flycatcher Contopus cooperi ought to be changed into Olive-sided Pewee (as it's the only Contopus not being called Pewee in English, also to keep it apart from the Olive Flycatcher Mitrephanes olivaceus).

Björn

PS. Here in Sweden we use the name nordlig pivi (meaning Northern Pewee) for the "Olive-sided Flycatcher" Contopus cooperi.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

More coming:
Oct 23 Post proposed split of Rufous-browed Chat-Tyrant from Brown-backed Chat-Tyrant.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Moving on to Australia:
Oct 24 Post proposed splits of Northern Shriketit and Western Shriketit from Eastern (Crested) Shriketit.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

And now vireos:
Oct 24 Post proposed lumps of Himalayan Shrike-babbler and Dalat Shrike-babbler with White-browed (Blyth's) Shrike-babbler.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Moving on to the vangas:
Oct 24 Post proposed split of Comoros Blue Vanga from (Madagascar) Blue Vanga.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Oct 24 Post proposed split of Rufous-crowned Prinia from Black-throated Prinia.

 

[njlarsen]

If accepted, and with the more Northern Short-legged (Tropical) Pewee Contopus (cinereus) [brachytarsus Group], I'd suggest that the name Tropical Pewee is kept (just as it is) for Contopus cinereus [i.e. the cinereus Group], and that we use the name Llanos (Tropical) Pewee for Contopus (cinereus) bogotensis (alone), which also would keep it apart from the Tumbes (Tropical) Pewee Contopus (cinereus) punensis, of course.

To be honest with you, this sounds complex enough that it would be better to completely retire the name of Tropical Pewee.
Niels

 

[Björn Bergenholtz]

To be honest with you, this sounds complex enough that it would be better to completely retire the name of Tropical Pewee.
Niels

Honesty is a good thing, Niels , and if Stability of Names isn't a major Concern (I believed it was, and think it is), how about; Sentry Pewee, alt. Sentinel Pewee, for the remaining Contopus cinereus (Group), ... or not?

However I agree that "Tropical" isn't a very good name considering its range (and certainly not for the nominate ssp. itself).

But that's all I can come up with, and that's about all I can say in this particular topic, sorry. Thereby, I gladly leave this case in more capable hands, with less risk of making a fool of myself.

Those birds (and their English names) are simply too, too far away for my scope ...

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

They keep coming:

Oct 24 Post proposed split of Burmese Starling Acridotheres burmannicus and Vinous-breasted Starling A. leucocephalus.

Oct 24 Post proposed split of Brown-crowned Scimitar Babbler from Coral-billed Scimitar Babbler.

 

[MJB]

Oct 24 Post proposed split of Burmese Starling Acridotheres burmannicus and Vinous-breasted Starling A. leucocephalus.
MJB

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Oct 25 Repost proposed split of Ethiopian Thrush from Groundscraper Thrush.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

Oct. 25 Post proposed split of Kalao Blue Flycatcher from Mangrove Blue Flycatcher.

Oct 25 Post proposed split of Rufous-breasted Blue Flycatcher from Blue-breasted Blue Flycatcher.

 

[Paul Clapham]

A good number of these proposed splits are live now in eBird, which suggests to me that they are coming from the WGAC team.

(It isn't totally straightforward to see them because eBird sometimes has different English names, e.g. "Myna" instead of "Starling" for Acridotheres species.)

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

More proposals that can also bee found in the eBird/Clements update:

Oct 25 Post proposed split of Red-cowled Widowbird from Red-collared Widowbird.

Oct 25 Post proposed split of Chestnut-and-black Weaver from Vieillot's Black Weaver.

Oct 25 Post proposed split of Red Weaver from Red-headed Weaver.

 

[Markus Lagerqvist]

A new batch, familiar from the eBird/Clements update:

Oct 26 Post proposed split of Copper-tailed Hummingbird from Green-bellied Humminbird.

Oct 26 Post proposed split of Enggano Imperial Pigeon from Green Imperial Pigeon.

Oct 26 Post proposed splits of Western Crested Guineafowl and Southern Crested Guineafowl from (Eastern) Crested Guineafowl.

Oct 26 Post proposed split of White-throated Piping Guan from Blue-throated Piping Guan.

Oct 26 Post proposed split of Sabah Partridge from Chestnut-necklaced Partridge.

 

[gusasp]

Oct 27 Post proposed split of Black-breasted Gnateater from Chestnut-belted Gnateater.

 

[Mysticete]

Not included in the diary but worth mentioning, in the updates section for subspecies and taxonomy there are a bunch of changes listed. Most of these seem to also be related to the Clements/ebird update, and presumably also WGAC

 

[Paul Clapham]

Oct 28 Post proposed split of Izu Robin from Japanese Robin.

Oct 28 Accept split (PS 9.1, PS 13.1) of Ethiopian Thrush from Groundscraper Thrush.

Oct 28 Accept split (PS 9.2) of White-browed Shortwing complex into Philippine, Bornean, Sumatran, Javan and Flores Shortwings.

(Accepting of splits has started.)