nkbj
Niels Kristian Bech Jensen
I have absolutely no idea.
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New edition of Fågelguiden (Collins Bird Guide). (1 Viewer)
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We are back at the old discussion: Should a FG reflect the recent systematic fashion/insights or should it follow the basic requirements that similar types can easily be compared. Thus, Peterson's original swallow/swift plate in his first FG for Europe still is a striking example of how a FG optimally fulfills its purpose. In this context, I hope falcons still follow the other raptors.
nkbj
Niels Kristian Bech Jensen
The order of the families seems to follow the second edition.
I agree more or less about the falcons. However, it would be a shame if this excellent guide in time became the “odd one out”. I am getting used to the new order via other books and that confuses me when I try to look something up in the Collins guide. Grant c.s. now create an order on their own: they do not put swallows and swifts together or the dunnock on the same pages as the sparrows like Peterson, which would indeed benefit comparison, and they also do not follow the recent scientific families. What purpose do they pursue?
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Stephen Dunstan
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Just had an email saying that despatch of my copy has been delayed until November. Not sure if this is all UK distributors.
They just realized they need to pulp and reprint so they can get juvenile lesser spotted woodpecker in...
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Every spring for 3 years we have had a female Lesser Spotted Woodpecker on our feeders. This year she arrived on 26th February. On 18th April I visited the little cemetery across the road to see if I could find the woodpecker as I had seen previously seen her in the cemetery or in the trees...
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jurek
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True. If Collins has a weak spot, it is juveniles of common songbirds. Juvenile Bluethroat, Nightingale, various wheatears or Rock Bunting look very different from the adults illustrated. And are much more likely to cause confusion than hyper-rarities. They could be illustrated at least in the app version, which has no limits of space on plates.
Actually, Sibley bird guide, although overall much weaker than European bird guides, at least duly shows a juvenile of every species.
Actually, Sibley bird guide, although overall much weaker than European bird guides, at least duly shows a juvenile of every species.
I just had the same Stephen.
MJB
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I wondered if Killian wanted to include some of the data and illustrations from Mullarney & Campbell 2022 on ID separation of Little and Saunders' Terns? The latter has a small population in the Red Sea, Habib 2021 thus breeding in the WP.They just realized they need to pulp and reprint so they can get juvenile lesser spotted woodpecker in...
And lots of other juveniles 👍🏻Lesser Spotted Woodpeckers - males or juveniles (Stockholm)
Every spring for 3 years we have had a female Lesser Spotted Woodpecker on our feeders. This year she arrived on 26th February. On 18th April I visited the little cemetery across the road to see if I could find the woodpecker as I had seen previously seen her in the cemetery or in the trees...
MJB
Habib, MI. 2021. Surveys of breeding Sooty Gulls on islands in Red Sea, Egypt, in 2012-2018. Dutch Birding. 44(1): 31-34.
Mullarney, K and O Campbell. 2022. Identification of Saunders's Tern and Little Tern, with special emphasis on juvenile and winter plumages. Dutch Birding. 44(3): 165-198.
kuzeycem
Medicinal Birding
Finally some inside peeks to the book (though in Swedish). Bluethroats look simply stunning, which once again fuels my disappointment at the Barn Swallow cover of the English version.
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Doctor Twitchings
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NHBS now have this as 'December' 2022 and Amazon UK have it as released on December 8th 2022.
John Cantelo
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The November issue of "Birdwatch" has an interview with the authors and photos of four of the new plates (partridges, redstarts, divers & wheatears - Pied/Cyprus/x2 Black-eared') and two double-page spreads (Pallid/Montagu's Harrier [which no longer share a spread with Hen Harrier] & vagrants - all the latter are now illustrated by at least one image),
I fully agree, there should be a much more distinct cover for this new edition. The casual observer might not even realize that it is a new edition................................... once again fuels my disappointment at the Barn Swallow cover of the English version.
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