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Photographing moths - for beginners (1 Viewer)

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Ken Noble
In case it's of interest to anyone who is new to mothing, I've put together a few tips on how to catch and photograph moths at:

http://www.wildlife-galleries.co.uk/gallery3/index.php/insects/moths/moth-trapping-and-photography

I'm sure others will add their own words of wisdom!

My current camera, a Canon Powershot is not as good for macro work as some of my earlier ones - but I've managed to get some acceptable results. If only there was a Nikon Coolpix with the super-macro capability of the 4500 with ten times the resolution! (Perhaps there is, but I'm not on a high budget.)

Ken
 
Excellent advice there Ken. One of the many aspects of moth photography I am still learning about is the best background to use. I mostly take photos for ID purposes, and rarely try to get a pleasing natural background, so one of my primary goals is to get as faithful a representation of colour and light as possible. I've noticed that my best results often seem to come when I use a pale grey background to set exposure(typically either the box housing the trap's choke or the outside of trap's tub). I suspect more serious photographer's would use an 18% grey card. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this.
 
Excellent advice there Ken. One of the many aspects of moth photography I am still learning about is the best background to use. I mostly take photos for ID purposes, and rarely try to get a pleasing natural background, so one of my primary goals is to get as faithful a representation of colour and light as possible. I've noticed that my best results often seem to come when I use a pale grey background to set exposure(typically either the box housing the trap's choke or the outside of trap's tub). I suspect more serious photographer's would use an 18% grey card. I'd be interested in your thoughts on this.

Hi, DMW,
I've never bothered too much about trying to get the colours realistic! I don't think that colour helps much with ID in the majority of cases. 18% grey card sounds too technical to me. I'm sure that others will have better knowledge than I on that one. Somewhere in the archives (perhaps on the Anglian Leps site?) I'm sure I've come across an excellent technical article on moth photography. But most of it was over my head!
Ken
 
Ken, I take photos of anything that moves and anything that doesn't. I don't trap moths, but I do photograph them as and when I see them. In fact I don't interfere with insects (or whatever) in any way. If I get the photo, great, if I miss it, well there is always something else that will come along.

I always try to look at other people's tips: there is always something that someone else does that is helpful for improving one's results. As you say, look at other people's photos too. I would also add that one should look with a critical eye at one's own photos. Try to analyse what went right or what went wrong.

One thing I would add to the list (unless it is there and I am just not seeing it) is in (scientific) record shots take at least one photo with a ruler/scale alongside - or press something else into service. I used a camcorder alongside a White Witch Moth which game me a fairly accurate wingspan of 8.75 inches, 222 mms.

I have to say I don't bother with a grey card these days. I used to use one for film from time to time when it was difficult to adjust colour balance, but it's quite easy to adjust in digital, especially if shooting in RAW - as long as there is a single light source. Multiple light sources of different colour temperatures will always cause problems. I agree though for an accurate scientific shot, a grey card is sensible.

Budget: there is a truism in, at least, some photography that the bigger your budget, the better will be your end result. That said, most photos are viewed at around 1000x800 pixels and so much potential quality is lost. In fact it is easier getting acceptable results from a camera with a small sensor, as the depth of field is so much greater than for a camera nearing 35mm or larger.

In general with digital it is better to slightly underexpose. Dark areas can be lightened, but there is no detail at all in burnt out highlights. When it is possible on the camera/flash I normally have the flash "turned down" by about 1 stop. I find this better for most situations - 1) as only light source 2) as main light source 3) just acting as "fill in" to lighten the shadows.

Now for one of my bug-bears. Many photos are called "macro" which are nowhere near being such: in fact they sometimes don't even qualify as being "closeup". Often cameras/lenses have a macro setting which is actually about 1:3 - closeup but not macro.

Ken, thanks for your tips, and I'm sorry to have rambled on (though I've tried to keep it down).

Dave.
 
Thanks, Dave,
I think that I am a beginner compared to you. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
I used to own a brilliant macro camera - in the true sense of the word. My present one is generally a better camera but not so good for macro. When I'm rich and famous I might be able to afford something better. But I certainly agree with your point that there is always something around the next bend worth photographing, whether it be an insect, a fungus or a striking view.
Ken
 
Surreybirder; My current camera said:
Hi Ken
Dont know what powershot you have but I think its capabilities would be greatly improved by the addition of a Raynox DCR-250, see link. http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/dcr250/indexdcr250eg.htm
I`ve been using one for several years now, initially on a powershot A640, then a G10, & currently on an SX50HS. The beauty of these lenses is that as well as increasing your cameras native magnification they also have a fixed focal point at c100mm (or 4", if you prefer) so no need to get right on top of the moth which in turn lets more light onto the subject. Another plus is the price, usually between £40-£50. Well worth it I think. Below are a few recent examples taken with the SX50.
 

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Ken, I have just had a look at the link to your wife's exhibition. I'm actually down in London when it's on - my nephew's wedding is on Saturday week. Unfortunately I'll probably run out of time and won't be able to get there. I hope it goes well. I'm sure it will.
 
Hi Ken
Dont know what powershot you have but I think its capabilities would be greatly improved by the addition of a Raynox DCR-250, see link. http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/dcr250/indexdcr250eg.htm
I`ve been using one for several years now, initially on a powershot A640, then a G10, & currently on an SX50HS. The beauty of these lenses is that as well as increasing your cameras native magnification they also have a fixed focal point at c100mm (or 4", if you prefer) so no need to get right on top of the moth which in turn lets more light onto the subject. Another plus is the price, usually between £40-£50. Well worth it I think. Below are a few recent examples taken with the SX50.

Hi, Rob,
I'm impressed! You've just given me an idea of what to ask for from Father Christmas (of course he exists ;-) )
The camera, which is my wife's, is the PowerShot SX40 HS which doesn't seem to be mentioned in the link but perhaps it's not very different from the SX50?
Cheers
Ken
 
Ken, I have just had a look at the link to your wife's exhibition. I'm actually down in London when it's on - my nephew's wedding is on Saturday week. Unfortunately I'll probably run out of time and won't be able to get there. I hope it goes well. I'm sure it will.

Hi, Dave,
Hope the wedding goes well. If you do happen to turn up, it would be good to say hello.
You can also see some of her work on http://wildlife-galleries.co.uk/z/artist-maggie-noble/ when the link is working!
Cheers,
Ken
 
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