Plover ID - Northern California, USA (1 Viewer)

[hga]

This picture was taken on September 27, 2011 at Baylands, Palo Alto, California. Having seen my first black-bellied plover last week at a different location, I can't tell whether this is another one, or one of the golden plovers.

 

[Grousemore]

Another black-bellied plover there.

 

[CJW]

Another black-bellied plover there.

Grey Plover surely?

 

[Hyrax]

Grey Plover surely?

Same thing I think

 

[Tiraya]

I think they are the same at the moment. May be a split on the way however....

 

[csanchez7]

Black-bellied and Grey Plover are the same bird. Furthermore, I believe the species is monotypic (no recognized subspecies) so no splits for the time being.

Carlos

 

[phil baber]

I still think Black-Bellied is a better name! Or Black-Wingpit Plover perhaps?

 

[csanchez7]

Phil, you prefer Black-bellied Plover? Isn't that heretical on your side of the pond?

I guess it is a matter of preference -- do you name the bird after its breeding plumage or after the nonbreeding plumage? I think the breeding plumaged birds are more memorable.

Carlos

 

[phil baber]

Phil, you prefer Black-bellied Plover? Isn't that heretical on your side of the pond?

I guess it is a matter of preference -- do you name the bird after its breeding plumage or after the nonbreeding plumage? I think the breeding plumaged birds are more memorable.

Carlos

Exactly!:t: We often only get them when they have black wing-pits..

Gray= "The Blues..." :-C

 

[Jane Turner]

Having a black belly is less unique in Pluvials than being grey/gray though!

 

[lou salomon]

Having a black belly is less unique in Pluvials than being grey/gray though!

take them in juv/basic plumage and the opposite is fact, jane...phil meant the black armpits as said which is unique to squatarola :gh:

 

[csanchez7]

Sounds like we have a small movement. Black-wingpit Plover? I'd be down with that!

Carlos

 

[Larry Sweetland]

would a mid-atlantic compromise be to call it Gray Plover

 

[chris butterworth]

would a mid-atlantic compromise be to call it Gray Plover

Someones looking for a smack with the spelling stick.

Chris

 

[Grousemore]

Having had another look, I think CJW is correct, it's actually a Grey Plover |=(|

 

[LabradorDuck]

Having had another look, I think CJW is correct, it's actually a Grey Plover |=(|

Same species, different regions.

 

[fugl]

My, my, different names for the same bird on the 2 sides of the Atlantic & spelling differences too! How shocking!

 

[jwreeves]

American grey/black-bellied plover look a lot more 'golden' in my limited experience! At least in non-breeding plumage. Not sure what the taxonomic situation is though! Maybe one to watch in the future?

 

[fugl]

American grey/black-bellied plover look a lot more 'golden' in my limited experience! At least in non-breeding plumage. Not sure what the taxonomic situation is though! Maybe one to watch in the future?

Maybe so, but see post #6, this thread.

 

[csanchez7]

American grey/black-bellied plover look a lot more 'golden' in my limited experience! At least in non-breeding plumage. Not sure what the taxonomic situation is though! Maybe one to watch in the future?

Check again: Black-bellied and Grey Plover are the same bird. Furthermore, I believe the species is monotypic (no recognized subspecies) so no splits for the time being.

Have to keep all these splitters away with a bat, they're so thick in here.

Carlos