Short toed lark? Croatia, Krk island (1 Viewer)

[janezl]

Hi,
is this a Short-toed lark? Pics from Krk island, near Obzova.

Regards,
Janez

 

[KenM]

I would say yes, based on pp, head pattern and an apparent lack of streaking to the breast.

Cheers

 

[lou salomon]

based on pp? but GSL doesn't have any pp..
to me it looks like a juv skylark, mainly on structure

 

[KenM]

based on pp? but GSL doesn't have any pp..
to me it looks like a juv skylark, mainly on structure

Yes I got it the wrong way round for pp being cloaked on GSL v Skylark...slapped wrists...must do better, will check the guide next time.

Looking at the White tips to the crown it’s almost certainly a juvenile.

Cheers

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

based on pp? but GSL doesn't have any pp..
to me it looks like a juv skylark, mainly on structure

Lou juvenile GSTL's do have a pp prior to post juvenile moult when they attain longer tertials http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/uploads/aragon-birds/passeriformes/297.shorttoedlark-cbrachydactyla.pdf

Grahame

 

[Earnest lad]

This bird looks very similar to a bird I saw in Romania last month. see attached I have been reliably advised that bird was a juvenile short toed lark

 

[apcdave]

so where are we with original shots? surely the bill aint right for skylark?

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

so where are we with original shots? surely the bill aint right for skylark?

I assume you mean the OP? Surely it's a GTSL. Quite aside from bill structure and absence of clear breast streaking, note lack of internal markings to median coverts, tertial pattern and row of dark-centred scapulars.

Juvenile Skylark for comparison https://www.portlandbirdobs.com/2018/07/23rd-july.html

Grahame

 

[apcdave]

thanks Grahame

 

[janezl]

Thank you for help!
Janez