Skipper id Please Kefalonia (1 Viewer)

[naturenutz]

Took this photo last week in Kefalonia , i think I've narrowed it down too either meditteranean skipper or pygmy skipper , its a good pic so hoping someone can confirm one way or the other .
cheers
vic

 

[Andy Hurley]

I have no experience of these 2, but from the Collins:
Male Med Skipper-Unh cilia-like hairs on costa long and dense (cf G. pumilio Pigmy Skipper)
Male Pigmy Skipper-Unh cilia-like hairs on costa short and sparse (cf G. nostrodamus Med Skipper)
With the forewing not showing, this is a tough one to call. The female Med does not appear to have any spots on the Unh. This one has obscure pale spots. Also the Med is pale greyish brown Ups, while the Pigmy is dark brown Ups. Did you see or photograph the upper side?

unh = underside hindwing
ups = upperside fore and hindwings
costa = top edge of wing (both fore and hindwing)

 

[naturenutz]

Thanks Andy , I do have more pics , but maybe
Not of the same individual but from the same beach area.
I have seen faint spots on the upper wing on at least one individual.
The upper wings were quite a dark almost chocolate brown on some .
I will search out Some upper wing pics although I don't think
They opened up the wings fully at any point. Usually settled
With wings closed or partially open.

 

[Andy Hurley]

The Chocolate uppers point to Pigmy Skipper, naturenutz, so I think that probably the safe bet. I would like other opinions from those familiar with either species that would help to confirm my id.

 

[naturenutz]

Here,s another pic

 

[naturenutz]

Another pic

 

[Andy Hurley]

In #5 you can see the costal spots on unf which the Med does't show, so its the Pygmy Skipper.

 

[naturenutz]

Thanks Andy , not the easiest to tell apart -