Surfbirds stoppress going down hill? (2 Viewers)

[bobthebirder]

Quite. And how can you expect a search facility to work properly if you don't spell the birds' names correctly?

but when it comes to understanding someones meaning i would say punctuation is more important than spelling any day call me a fuddy duddy but i mean its like you know people are afraid of getting it wrong so they think its safer to leave it all out but it doesn't make the meaning clear at all does it how can you expect people to understand if you write everything as one long sentence they have to read what youve written two or three times before they can understand

 

[ColinD]

Quite. And how can you expect a search facility to work properly if you don't spell the birds' names correctly?

but when it comes to understanding someones meaning i would say punctuation is more important than spelling any day call me a fuddy duddy but i mean its like you know people are afraid of getting it wrong so they think its safer to leave it all out but it doesn't make the meaning clear at all does it how can you expect people to understand if you write everything as one long sentence they have to read what youve written two or three times before they can understand

Lol. :clap:

I hardly liked mentioning it myself, and I know I'm not perfect, but sometimes I really feel like saying "take a breath, please...". A full, stop, the odd capital letter and a comma would help now and again.

 

[nigelblake]

Whilst the punctuation issue is slightly of topic for this thread I have to say that agree wholeheartedly.

Its also interesting that there is much hypocrisy too, some who have been extremely vociferous about digital manipulation being cheating are put very badly manipulated images in the gallery, and not declaring what has been done; not that they need to because its stands out like the proverbial injured opposable digit!

 

[redeyedvideo]

but when it comes to understanding someones meaning i would say punctuation is more important than spelling any day call me a fuddy duddy but i mean its like you know people are afraid of getting it wrong so they think its safer to leave it all out but it doesn't make the meaning clear at all does it how can you expect people to understand if you write everything as one long sentence they have to read what youve written two or three times before they can understand

That's fuddy-duddy, it's, you've & you may wish to add a couple of ??'s.

Whilst the punctuation issue is slightly of topic

That's off topic


Dave J

 

[nigelblake]

That's off topic


Dave J

Yes it was aslo deliberate

 

[Hotspur]

Yes it was aslo deliberate

Isn't that the capital of Norway?

 

[nigelblake]

Isn't that the capital of Norway?

No thats 'N'.

 

[steveandsue]

Nigel,
Have you ever sent any Shoddy pics to surfbirds.

 

[nigelblake]

Nigel,
Have you ever sent any Shoddy pics to surfbirds.

Yes often

 

[mjmw]

I think it may be getting into very sensitive ground to ctytishize people's ability to spell correctly. We are not all academics - I certainly am not.. There are people out here who have a real problem with spelling through no fault of their own, and they may be very good photographers.

but John, something like bird names are easy to look up. For those that can't be bothered opening a book there is Google, Wikipedia or even BF's own gallery and Opus - they even give the scientific name too

 

[mjmw]

That's fuddy-duddy, it's, you've & you may wish to add a couple of ??'s.

Thats your INFJ personality escaping again Dave

 

[GDK]

As for the World Rarities page and the battle of the tour companies, that's probably for another thread, although I do recall a Mr J Olah posting a pic of African Pygmy Goose on there once.

alan

I dont mind sifting through all the dross on any of the photo pages, but then I have broadband.

World Rarities is a great page despite (because of?) the battle, which BQ used to always seem to win on swamping. I think that the two chaps at Birdtour Asia should look at producing a photoguide (with CD?) to owls of that part of the world - consistantly brilliant photos.

Would also really like to make it to Cameroon soon...


Gareth

ps is Surfbirds really non profit, or have I misread a previous post?

 

[nigelblake]

Rewind to posts 6 and 8 John. Beginners are not the issue.

 

[mjmw]

Glad I hit refresh before posting, Nigel took the words off my keyboard...

...and in practice I use Google and Wikipedia all the time to look up spellings and scientific names because I don't have a brain that remembers such things. I used to use a dictionary and my field guides before I realised it took longer.

 

[Clive Watson]

Go on then, I'm going to shove in my fourpennerth as well, with an attempt to return to the original thread. In my opinion yes, it's annoying when people post in the wrong gallery and when the spelling is wrong and when the photos are poor, but to move, change or delete them then becomes censorship, which is totally anathema to me. With regards to Surfbirds particularly, it seems to me that there are fewer postings since the site went down for a month after it was hacked; perhaps some people can't be bothered to post stuff any more.

 

[rubythroat71]

It gets worse guys - now some people seem to think GREY PHALAROPE is a stop press UK rarity!

Dear me....

 

[davem]

And worse still... in that some people think that calling a shot 'low-res' is some sort of excuse.

Flame me if I'm wrong but at 500px wide on a computer screen, surely there isn't anyone alive who could tell the difference between was 72dpi (low res) or 300dpi (hi-res)???

Also I would like to see anyone get a 300dpi shot on Surfbirds and stay within the 500px wide 50k size guidelines.

And yes I agree - Stop-Press should be for BBRC rarities only - filling it up with Sab's Gulls & Pec Sands etc may be nice but we can all find the scarce birds folder can't we??

Rant over...

Dave.

 

[nigelblake]

Flame me if I'm wrong but at 500px wide on a computer screen, surely there isn't anyone alive who could tell the difference between was 72dpi (low res) or 300dpi (hi-res)???

Dave.

http://photo.net/learn/resize/

I suspect you actually mean ppi
The dpi is irrelevant on a screen, if its 500 pixels wide at either ppi and at the same compression they will display the same size (or slightly different depending whether you have a 72 or 96ppi display),

Dpi is just a header file that is not used for screen display, it is only when you get to printing that it counts, at 72dpi it will print at 6.9” and at 300dpi it will be 1.66”.
The above link explains it all.

 

[Keith Reeder]

but to move, change or delete them then becomes censorship, which is totally anathema to me.

It's not censorship at all Clive, it's simply applying the rules.

The Admin here do precisely the same thing.

 

[davem]

Hi Nigel,

sorry, dpi / ppi (dots/pixels) I didn't realise there was a difference! I also probably didn't make explain myself clearly enough.

I was getting at the fact that people seem to think that putting 'low-res file' on a Surfbirds pic gives them an excuse for it being naff (or just a plain non-understanding of the high / low res thing). A naff image at 72dpi (internet image) will look just as naff at 300dpi (publication res image).

The Grey Phal at Farmoor yesterday at 72dpi http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery12 at 500px wide looks exactly the same on my PC screen as the same shot at 300dpi at 500px wide...

Dave.